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NHS-were we clapping or waving goodbye?

(66 Posts)
westendgirl Tue 21-Jul-20 12:35:23

This was feared but expected. What are they thinking of?

Ideas please .

silverlining48 Tue 21-Jul-20 12:26:43

We have been waving goodbye for some time, bit by bit is being hived off, has been for years. When will the tories realise that not everything is about profit and market forces and whatever else they believe in.
This is a service, a health service which is being starved until they can say it’s not working and we need a new (American) system. God or whoever else, help us.

GillT57 Tue 21-Jul-20 12:07:21

Bit quiet this morning......where are all the Johsnon supporters? All those who mocked and sneered at Corbyn when he warned this was going to happen? All conveniently slipped out at the same time as the announcement of public sector pay rises and the same day as the release of the Russia report. Obviously the photos of Johnson and his offspring didn;t work as a distraction

ladymuck Tue 21-Jul-20 12:01:50

We need to encourage more people to join the health sector. Forget cheap foreign labour, we have plenty of our own people available. We just need to make the profession more attractive to them. Higher wages, better working conditions will act as an incentive.
The government should be concentrating on that instead of looking for ways to save money.

biba70 Tue 21-Jul-20 11:50:12

Trump pulls the strings- we have become his puppet. He wants the NHS part of the Deal- he wants us to accept terrible standards for meat, bio-safety and husbandry, it does not want USA car industry to be part of Deal. And we have NO choice- yes Master, whatever you say Master.

Because we wont have China on board, and not Russia either- and we will have got rid of the EU - so what else is there but to agree to Trumps every whim- at whatever cost.

trisher Tue 21-Jul-20 11:48:05

Well Tory MPs obviously think it's OK.

Luckygirl Tue 21-Jul-20 11:48:04

It is so sad - they just do not get the meaning of the word "service" and never did - profit is the God.

maddyone Tue 21-Jul-20 11:46:33

I shouldn’t have thought anyone thinks privatising the NHS is a good idea.

trisher Tue 21-Jul-20 11:45:26

Mm I was wondering where are the caring Conservatives to explain this to me?

Lucca Tue 21-Jul-20 11:32:55

I’d be interested to hear from grands who think privatising nhs is a good idea ?

Whitewavemark2 Tue 21-Jul-20 10:35:28

I asked for a quote for both of us. ??????

Charleygirl5 Tue 21-Jul-20 10:32:28

Very worrying especially as many of us are uninsurable.

Greeneyedgirl Tue 21-Jul-20 09:54:03

Privatising the so called Social Care sector hasn’t worked and yet onward and downward, in pursuit of profit we go.

I don’t believe it is possible to run a comprehensive health care service, on a private, profit based system. We are clearly going down the US route, where if you are poor, or your insurance runs out hard luck!

Insurance companies must be overjoyed.

Alexa Tue 21-Jul-20 09:46:20

The Tories contract with private concerns and by doing so, the Tories naturally choose the cheapest option, after the manner of Basil Fawlty and the Builders,

Alexa Tue 21-Jul-20 09:44:55

Privatisation will kill the NHS if the Tories are permitted to go on privatising.

trisher Tue 21-Jul-20 09:36:37

Last night Tory MPs voted down an amendment which would have protected the NHS from more privatisation by keeping it out of any Trade Deals. So all the assurances about how much they appreciate it were just hot air. The Covid crisis may well be the last act of a dying organisation.
Proposed by Catherine Lucas, this was the amendment.
New Clause 17
In addition to protecting the NHS from foreign control, the amendment also contained numerous other measures to protect the NHS, including:

Ensuring the ability to provide a “comprehensive and publicly funded health service free at the point of delivery” was not compromised by any future trade deal
Protecting hard-working NHS staff from having their wages or rights slashed by any future trade deal
Protecting the quality and safety of health and care services
Regulating the control and pricing of medicines
Protecting patient data from being sold off
Protecting the NHS from so-called investor-state dispute settlements (ISDS) – clauses which allow foreign investors to sue national governments for any measures which harm their profits.