Why did Starmer settle out of court Give a grovelling apology and pay out six figure sum?

Starmer knows far more on how the law and courts work than most in the LP I would argue.

But not more than the lawyers engaged by the party who specialise in this subject. It's a bit like asking your conveyancing solicitor to do your divorce, you'll get a divorce but if the other party has a good divorce solicitor you'll lose out.

It’s not all about being a lawyer though, it’s about being a strong leader.Starmer has seen the damage that a weak and vacillating PLP leader has done and is trying to put things straight.
It seems to me that some LP supporters/members care more about form and being purist to the socialist agenda than actually getting a LP into power.It doesn’t mean abandoning principles it means treating ‘a running sore’ and showing the electorate that this leader means business.

And all this argy bargy between Labour supporters merely illustrates why bumbling Boris and his merry idiots got elected in the first place.

Well the situation is Starmer paid out evidence he didn't have to. Theres a question. Up to Labour leader to unite party.

My experience as a LP supporter and campaigner for a good Labour MP is that after the relative success in the 2017 election, people began to see Corby for what is is. The didn't want him as PM. All this blaming the right wing media, people within the party etc etc just avoids facing the reality that so many of us faced and heard on the doorsteps as we tried and failed to get ur neighbours to vote for the LP under

I'm afraid that lemon and tidyskatemum are right - put very simply all this argy bargy between Labour supporters illustrates why we have the (awful) government we now have.

McLusky contributed to that mess, he should clear off.

Iam64

My experience as a LP supporter and campaigner for a good Labour MP is that after the relative success in the 2017 election, people began to see Corby for what is is. The didn't want him as PM. All this blaming the right wing media, people within the party etc etc just avoids facing the reality that so many of us faced and heard on the doorsteps as we tried and failed to get ur neighbours to vote for the LP under

I'm afraid that lemon and tidyskatemum are right - put very simply all this argy bargy between Labour supporters illustrates why we have the (awful) government we now have.

McLusky contributed to that mess, he should clear off.

So you support those that it is alleged carried out illegal activity in the Labour Party Central Office Iam64???????

If that is the general attitude within the right of the Parliamentary Labour Party then Len McCluskey is correct and the Unite funding along with all the trade unions that have financed the organisation for over one hundred years should be brought to an end.

There can be no future for a political party that holds such attitudes within its membership. The wider Labour Movement should pull the plug on this shambles of an organisation and start afresh political wing.

Totally disgusting.

Amazing that with all the obvious shenanagins that went on in LP central office some people continue to blame those on the left for disrupting the party. In the words of Ian Lavery "The Labour Party is a socialist Party," so those who think it is OK to mess about with policies which are watered down Toryism should get out and leave the party to establish real socialist policies. The LP did better in 2017 than any time since 1945 and that was with the right wing at headquarters working against them and the media attempting to destroy Corbyn.

The entire Labour party general election campaigns of 2017 and 2019 were funded by the trade union movement with three million of which was donated solely by the Unite Union alone in the last campaign with similar being contributed in 2017.

A percentage of that money which came from the subscriptions paid by those often poorly paid union members was it is alleged, diverted away from the support for a leader elected by the entire Labour movement and into "low life schemes" that would work against that leader and the party winning those elections.

And then there are those that state that Len McCluskey should "clear off" out the party.

What a joke those that state such are.

What did those labour campaigns achieve grandad. On the last one they lost bloody Bolsover.

Who says I support those who it is alleged carried out illegal activity in the LP central office?
Disliking McClusky's attitudes, concluding that Corbyn was a disastrous leader, reporting on what we found when campaigning for a Labour victory does not equal supporting alleged illegal activity.

Grandad1943

The entire Labour party general election campaigns of 2017 and 2019 were funded by the trade union movement with three million of which was donated solely by the Unite Union alone in the last campaign with similar being contributed in 2017.

A percentage of that money which came from the subscriptions paid by those often poorly paid union members was it is alleged, diverted away from the support for a leader elected by the entire Labour movement and into "low life schemes" that would work against that leader and the party winning those elections.

And then there are those that state that Len McCluskey should "clear off" out the party.

What a joke those that state such are.

So what did Labour do with the rest of its money?

In 2017 and 2018, it was the wealthiest political party.

The unions are responsible for a fraction of the Labour Party's income.

www.electoralcommission.org.uk/financial-accounts-larger-political-parties-great-britain-published

Perhaps it’s time the Labour Party cut the cord with the likes of Len McCluskey. He wields too much power. He is the Dominic Cummings of the left.

growstuff, the trade unions in 2018 were responsible for approximately sixty percent of total Labour Party funding and one hundred percent of general election campaign funding in 2017.

The above annual general funding percentage was at a time when the Labour Party had obtained by way of Jeremy Corbyn's leadership a direct membership of over half a million subscription paying members making it the largest political organisation in Europe.

However, that total by way of membership subscription only accounted for forty percent of the Labour total income with the rest coming almost entirely from trade union funding.

Labour Party membership is now falling dramatically if reports are correct, with perhaps as many as one hundred and fifty thousand not renewing their subscription since Starmer's election as leader. The foregoing makes the trade union funding even more important to Labour and an even higher percentage of total income.

However, if Starmer and persons such as yourself growstuff do not appreciate or wish to receive such contributions, why not just tell Unite and all the other affiliated trade unions as such and doubtless they will no longer force that money on the Parliamentary Labour Party.

By the way, Corbyn made the Labour Party the largest and wealthiest political organisation in Europe but is seem by the right wing of the party as a failure.

Starmer since his election as leader has brought the party to the brink of a financial abyss, dramatically falling membership and a severe breach with the wider Labour movement and yet is viewed by some on this forum and elsewhere as a success

Funny old world is it not. ??

Link to election funding can be found here;-
www.politicshome.com/news/article/labour-gets-election-funding-boost-after-unite-donate-3m-to-party-war-chest

So Corbyn made the Labour Party the largest and wealthiest
political organisation in Europe

Giving the worse general election defeat since 1935

Yes, funny old world, but not for those who needed a Labour
Government

Perhaps he will write his memoirs and explain -

I was there but I don’t think I was involved

Yes funny old world when money and membership are seen as more important than being in political power and being in a position to improve the lives of people you profess to care about.

Agree with Grandad1943 and Trisher

Yes Jeremy Corbyn did make Labour the largest and wealthiest political party in Europe.

We very nearly won the 2017 election

And we know those at the top in Labour were working towards a defeat.

Thousands came to Corbyns rallies across the U.K. Young people with JC written on their foreheads.

But the Establishment broadcasters and newspapers joined all together to defeat a Labour government winning they would make sure Labour didn't get elected.

Anniebach

So Corbyn made the Labour Party the largest and wealthiest
political organisation in Europe

Giving the worse general election defeat since 1935

Yes, funny old world, but not for those who needed a Labour
Government

Perhaps he will write his memoirs and explain -

I was there but I don’t think I was involved

Had those on the right of the Labour Party got behind Corbyn in 2017 and 2019 instead of working against a Labour victory then you may well have got the electoral victory you state you needed aniebach.

Apparently, Corbyn and McDonald are to take up prominent positions in Dont Leave Organise (DLO) so as to try to bring to an end the thousands leaving the Labour Party every week now.

Such is their commitment to the Labour Movement that even now they are not prepared to sit back but still work for the benefit of the organisation.

Never any responsibility, it must be lovely, the fault of the right of the labour party, the fault of the press, the fault of anyone but the leadership of the worst labour defeat I have ever seen.

I expect you include the people like me in that dismissive "people on the right of the party" working against a Labour government. That is so offensive to the many of us who were door knocking, leaflet posting, phone calling to work for the Labour government our areas need so much. Deny, dismiss, accuse others but we know what we were told on those doorsteps. Corbyn was toxic.

Apparently, Corbyn and McDonald are to take up prominent positions in Dont Leave Organise (DLO) so as to try to bring to an end the thousands leaving the Labour Party every week now
That's good Grandad1943 Corbyn and McDonald still working for the many not the few for Labour

Yes Iam64, the right in the Labour Party worked to absolutely ensure that Corbyn was toxic to many potential Labour voters at both the most recent General Elections.

Grany

^Apparently, Corbyn and McDonald are to take up prominent positions in Dont Leave Organise (DLO) so as to try to bring to an end the thousands leaving the Labour Party every week now^
That's good Grandad1943 Corbyn and McDonald still working for the many not the few for Labour

Grant, Corbin and McDonald would have attended and spoken at many DLO rallies already but the Covid-19 crisis has ensured those events could not take place.

Meanwhile the reported avalanche of members leaving the party continues and with that, the gulf between the Parliamentary Labour Party and the affiliated Labour movement also continues to move.

Apologies my above post was to Grany not Grant as stated in first line.

Again apologies Grany.

You were doing it wrong Iam64, dont you know door knocking, leafleting etc are old hat, you needed to write JC across your forehead to facilitate electoral change and improve the lives of people. Thank goodness the adults are back in the room.