Why did Starmer settle out of court Give a grovelling apology and pay out six figure sum?

I don't think anybody worked to ensure that 'Labour' didn't win, it was in fact to make sure that Jeremy Corbyn and sidekick McDonnell didn't win! I find it incomprehensible that the far left cannot or will not understand that to many voters, and at the end of the day, it's votes that count, the politics of J.C and comrades will never win an election, the politics of Kier Starmer will, as did Tony Blair, it's as simple as that! Boris didn't win that huge majority if doorstep reactions are to be believed, which they must be, Labour under J.C virtually gave it to him!

Will see how Starmer bridges that gap and so unites the Labour party

I think it will take him years, he has a momentous job ahead of him.

You are wrong there the polices were very much liked and needed by the people.

Blair got in by being bought by Murdock not his polices.

If the policies were much liked by the people why didn’t the
people vote for them ?

Exactly Annie, 'We love your politics but we're not voting for you!!!.?' (in droves!)

Blair was the only Labour Leader to win three consecutive
general elections Grany

Corbyn had the worse general election defeat since 1935

Blair was young, he was attractive, articulate, persuasive, people warmed to him, he told them what they wanted to hear, and initially he delivered. That's why, as far as the public were concerned he won three G.E's in a row.

All I know is there was Blair and Mandelson actively working against Corbyn £250,000 fund raised to fight against a Corbyn win. And as was said broadcasters and newspapers joined together reporting negatively Corbyn and positively Johnson

So Johnson had the Broadcasters and Billionaire newspapers on his side And vote rigging a Tory firm, lots of votes went uncounted.

Anyhow Starmer is Leader now let's hope he does some good for the many.

Please post details of the £250,000 raised by Blair and
Mandelson , not twitter

Galaxy

You were doing it wrong Iam64, dont you know door knocking, leafleting etc are old hat, you needed to write JC across your forehead to facilitate electoral change and improve the lives of people. Thank goodness the adults are back in the room.

I don't know how anyone can dismiss the young people who chose to get involved in politics because of Jeremy Corbyn in such a way. They hopefully will stay with the LP but I actually see Starmer as a block to this. I wonder if there are any stats on the number of young people amongst those who have left? It's fine to support the activists who door knock, but if you dismisss the younger supporters you may as well wave goodbye to the LP now.

I am not dismissing those young people trisher, I am dismissing the people who thought that was going to secure electoral change. They let those young people down thinking that membership and rallies would change peoples lives.

Anniebach

Blair was the only Labour Leader to win three consecutive
general elections Grany

Corbyn had the worse general election defeat since 1935

Yes, Blair won three general elections and the great legacy of those victories where:-
The beginning of zero-hour employment contracts.
The start of Gig Economy employment working.
The British end of the 2008 Banking Crisis.
The Iraq war.

Oh........and Rupert Murdock running Labour party policy to ensure no press criticism of Blair and his cohorts was forthcoming while all the above was carried out.

Wonderful stuff.

There's room for both Galaxy or rather there was in the LP under Corbyn, if that remains true under Starmer I'm not sure.

even now they are not prepared to sit back but still work for the benefit of the organisation.

And there you have it; crystal clear and devoid of any ambiguity: for the benefit of the organisation. Not the country. Not the people it professes to be working for. Not the younger generation who looked to the LP as a channel to improve things for the future. Just the organisation. Thanks for confirming Grandad, it's as a I suspected.

It's funny though grandad I worked in some of the most deprived areas of the North in Blairs time, without exception every single one of the families I worked with and in particular the children of those family was better off under Blair than under the current administration.
Wonderful stuff.

Well the organisation is the Labour Party and the people what else is it And still working for the many not the few to improve lives.

Well Galaxy The Tories since 2010 brought in austerity a political choice not A nessessity that's why people not doing so well now.

You can take the 2008 global financial crisis off your list of Blair/Brown 'failures', Grandad. The fact that you've used it as such really makes you look like an old tory.

If it hadn't been for Labour's prompt action in arranging for £300+ billion of QE and guaranteeing people's bank deposits there would have been complete economic meltdown in the UK.

And if you want to blame it on Labour's previous lax regulation of the banking industry you can forget that, too. The GFC *started in the USA*; regimes were following commonly accepted economic theory in regard to regulation (the theory being that markets are self balancing and will find their correct levels because of that).

If you believe that taxes fund government spending and that countries can run out of money then you subscribe to the same economic theory so can't be pointing blame fingers at anyone else who believes it...

Yes Grany I understand that, why it's important to win elections. So those families were much better off when Blair was leader than when Corbyn was leader. But nine of that matters to the people who want to follow the code.

Grany

Well Galaxy The Tories since 2010 brought in austerity a political choice not A nessessity that's why people not doing so well now.

How on earth does that have any bearing on Galaxy's post?

Do you not have any pride at all in the achievements of the 1997 - 2010 Labour governments?

Grandad1943

Anniebach

Blair was the only Labour Leader to win three consecutive
general elections Grany

Corbyn had the worse general election defeat since 1935

Yes, Blair won three general elections and the great legacy of those victories where:-
The beginning of zero-hour employment contracts.
The start of Gig Economy employment working.
The British end of the 2008 Banking Crisis.
The Iraq war.

Oh........and Rupert Murdock running Labour party policy to ensure no press criticism of Blair and his cohorts was forthcoming while all the above was carried out.

Wonderful stuff.

Don't forget the attempt to privatise the NHS!

People seem to forget this

www.theguardian.com/society/2006/feb/16/health.politics

Also many countries had to introduce austerity, not just the UK . Many protests in the Eu.

But people seem to forget that as well

www.theguardian.com/business/2012/nov/14/europe-unite-austerity-protests

I don't have polarised views on politics. I see right and wrong from all parties and leaders.

But we can't just accuse one party of doing something that the other parties have done/tried to do.

It's akin to fanatical football fans with some people

An utter loathing of the right by the left and vice versa with no logical thinking

Your post is completely irrelevant to this discussion, Oopsminty.

We're not talking about different political parties, we're talking about different 'wings' of the Labour Party.

Do save your disgust and sweeping statements for a more appropriate thread...

The simple fact is that the left of the Labour Movement provide virtually all the financing and infrastructure for parliamentary Labour Party and then the Neo Tory Right of the that Parliamentary party use that financing and infrastructure against the left of the movement.

That as Len McCluskey has stated has to be brought to an end.

MaizieD

Your post is completely irrelevant to this discussion, Oopsminty.

We're not talking about different political parties, we're talking about different 'wings' of the Labour Party.

Do save your disgust and sweeping statements for a more appropriate thread...

That made me laugh, MaizieD!

Does it not suit your narrative?

I don't think it's up to you what I post actually. And I'm not remotely disgusted. Nor have I made sweeping statements

Lots of posters have been discussing what Tony Blair did. They are also mentioning the austerity that we have endured under Tory rule.

I think that my comments are very relevant.

Seeing as I appear to have rattled your cage, maybe you should report me to HQ