Why did Starmer settle out of court Give a grovelling apology and pay out six figure sum?

Grandad1943

Whitewavemark2

The reports are expected to be widely critical of Corbyn and his supporters in failing to get to grip with the AS in the party. Corbyn may well find himself subject to litigation, and he may well need every last penny if that fund.

Starmer is determined to draw a line and if this costs - so be it.

Without dealing with this sore, the LP can’t move on.

No one has any details of what the two forthcoming reports may contain. The report from the Race & Equalities Commission was due to be released more than two months ago and it is not known why the delay has come about.

However, the above Commission did state they would not take into account any matters that were contained within the internal leaked report that deals with the actions of Central Office employees. In that report it is alleged those employees withheld information from both the Labour Leaders office and that of the General Secretaries office that would have enabled those bodies to deal with many allegations of anti-semitism against members. That report also has given rise to the allegations of employed Central Office Staff working against the elected leader of the Labour party to the extent of even attempting to prevent Labour winning the 2018 general election.

It is now being "speculated" that the delay to the Race & Equality
Commission report may be due to that body now having decided to include evidence from the leaked report into their own publication.

Of course, Starmer worshipers on this forum never wish to discuss that it has been the right of the Labour party working, possibly illegally, within the Labour Party Central Office that has brought the organisation to the brink of the financial and political abyss it now faces.

I can’t acknowledge anything until I have evidence.

Who is responsible etc will presumably will come out when this is finally resolved, until then it is better to keep your council rather than wildly speculating as to who did what.

What I do know is that this is one if the worse governments on record and my focus is on ensuring that they are called out for every error, ideological claptrap etc they make.

I see that the Lib Dem’s are making overtures about working with labour.

Good.

Many would ask how those in possession of information such as the alleged actions of the employees at Labours Central Office were then to get that knowledge into the public domain if not through leaking it to the press???

I don't actually have much of a problem with the report being leaked, stuff happens. But they should have redacted the names before doing so.

What I have a problem with, Grandad is your previous chortling over how the payouts were going to destroy the party, notably the PLP, but it was worth it (sounds like bl**dy Brexit, doesn't it. Destroy the UK, but hey, it's worth it) and now your ignoring of the breach of the law.

The internal report that became leaked was originally intended to be confidential in being presented to the Race & Equalities Commission for examination as part of their report. However, when they initially refused to included any party of the report in their investigation, it became leaked.

Many would ask how those in possession of information such as the alleged actions of the employees at Labours Central Office were then to get that knowledge into the public domain if not through leaking it to the press???

I do not believe there IS anti semitism in the LP. Or at least, no more than in the Tory party, which in addition has a problem with Islamophobia.

This was all just another piece of the jigsaw to prevent Labour from succeeding in the election.

I understand why Starmer is doing it. The stain left by the allegations is still there. But by doing this, he is blackening the reputation of a man who was almost broken by the undeserved vitriol thrown at him during the election.

Sadly, in the long run I don't believe it will make any difference. The establishment, big business and Cummings Russian friends and contacts will see to it that there isn't a left-wing government again, certainly not within my lifetime. We don't live in a democracy anymore.

Starmer needs to remember that next time it will be him under attack.

MaizieD - have just seen your post sent at 11:28.

I agree that those who leaked the report have no regard for the law, especially data protection law. All they were thinking about was salving the reputation of their man. They just won't accept that he has gone and his favoured candidate to be his successor was badly beaten in the leadership elections.

I assume that their actions were not sanctioned by the Labour Party so I am hoping that the party will not be held responsible in the end.

Grandad1943 - I see that you wisely say "Should it be that the allegations ....turn out to be correct".

That was the point of my post earlier. We don't yet know if these allegations are correct.

As Corbyn supporters firmly believe that they are and will continue to insist that they are it is therefore fortunate that the allegations in the leaked report will form part of the EHRC investigation so that the truth will emerge.

I am also pleased that the leaking of the report is being investigated since all that those who leaked it are likely to achieve is to bankrupt the only opposition party we have in this country. The Tories must be delighted at how the Labour Party is tearing itself apart.

I cant believe people are minimising the deliberate use of the names. Well I can believe it.

^ then those who compiled that report should be applauded for bringing forward essential information to the benefit of all those who financially subscribe to the Labour Party and those who support its overall democratic political ambitions^.

Not a word about the breaches of the Data Protection Act, then, Grandad? From you who is always so insistent on the operation of 'the law'? Shame on you.

Whatever the rights or wrongs of the affair, the 'leakers' have broken the law in this respect and it is monstrous that the LP might have to pay for their folly.

MaizieD

On a slightly different 'angle', we know that many of the people named in the leaked report are preparing to sue the Labour Party for breaches of the data protection act.

Is Starmer supposed to pick up the tab for that, too? Seeing that it was his 'enemies' within the LP who orchestrated the leak...

This feels more and more dystopian to me.

Amused to find that I, and other supporters of Labour policies, seem to have been transformed from Corbyn lovers to Starmer lovers ???

Should it be that the allegations contained within the leak report turn out to be correct, then those who compiled that report should be applauded for bringing forward essential information to the benefit of all those who financially subscribe to the Labour Party and those who support its overall democratic political ambitions.

So there are no comments. Only a very few people using false names, some not very wise. So why is the mainstream media saying there are comments, when there are none. Surely not a lie?

Iam64

I read on line this morning that some of those donating to the Go Fund Me page are adding anti semitic comments to their posts. I haven't read the posts so can't confirm or otherwise. My belief is that under Corbyn's leadership anti semitism found a home in the LP . Some either don't understand their comments are anti semitic, or use various disingenuous comments in an attempt to disguise their true beliefs. There are some who seem unable to recognise the way they express support for the people of Palestine is AS. I shouldn't need to add that its possible to criticise the behaviour of the current Israeli government without being anti semitic.

This is a very real example of how Corbyn has been treated by the media and by people who simply don't bother to investigate something they are. told. There are no comments at all on the Go Fund Me site. But someone has chosen to spread this falsehood on social media which has resulted in claims once again that Corbyn supporters are anti-semitic. It is almost like Chinese whispers but it is actually much worse. It is seeking to blacken someone's name and the people who have supported that person. It is insiduous and dangerous because although I can prove that there are no posts the memory of the accusation will remain in the public mind. So that when Corbyn is spoken about people will say "Oh I remember something about his supporters and anti-semitic comments."

On a slightly different 'angle', we know that many of the people named in the leaked report are preparing to sue the Labour Party for breaches of the data protection act.

Is Starmer supposed to pick up the tab for that, too? Seeing that it was his 'enemies' within the LP who orchestrated the leak...

This feels more and more dystopian to me.

Amused to find that I, and other supporters of Labour policies, seem to have been transformed from Corbyn lovers to Starmer lovers ???

Whitewavemark2

The reports are expected to be widely critical of Corbyn and his supporters in failing to get to grip with the AS in the party. Corbyn may well find himself subject to litigation, and he may well need every last penny if that fund.

Starmer is determined to draw a line and if this costs - so be it.

Without dealing with this sore, the LP can’t move on.

No one has any details of what the two forthcoming reports may contain. The report from the Race & Equalities Commission was due to be released more than two months ago and it is not known why the delay has come about.

However, the above Commission did state they would not take into account any matters that were contained within the internal leaked report that deals with the actions of Central Office employees. In that report it is alleged those employees withheld information from both the Labour Leaders office and that of the General Secretaries office that would have enabled those bodies to deal with many allegations of anti-semitism against members. That report also has given rise to the allegations of employed Central Office Staff working against the elected leader of the Labour party to the extent of even attempting to prevent Labour winning the 2018 general election.

It is now being "speculated" that the delay to the Race & Equality
Commission report may be due to that body now having decided to include evidence from the leaked report into their own publication.

Of course, Starmer worshipers on this forum never wish to discuss that it has been the right of the Labour party working, possibly illegally, within the Labour Party Central Office that has brought the organisation to the brink of the financial and political abyss it now faces.

Or randoms if you prefer

I am sure he needs legal advice from ransoms on the internet.

Some Labour Party members think the money donated should be given to food banks

The former Labour leader was the victim of a carefully planned and brutally executed political assassination

He was never given a chance. Not by the bulk of Labour’s parliamentary party and many officials, some of whom (we are now learning) campaigned harder against their elected leader than they did against the Tory government. Not by senior figures connected to the British state, including former spy chiefs, military officers and civil servants, all of whom should have known much better.

Lie after lie was told about Corbyn, day after day, month after month. For the last four years very few journalists have bothered to do their job to fact-check the claims and report fairly on him.

Sir Keir Starmer, a barrister by training, please note: due process matters. It has been absent for the last four years in the party you now head.

Jeremy Corbyn is still hounded in a cafe by journalists one was rude to his wife Lara. The Establishment are running scared they do not want socialism, neoliberal status quo

At least the GoFundMe money will help.

Starmer has several backers hedge fund, Bankers what will they want in return.

It's interesting to see the names of those who have donated.

I cant see any comments. I can see screen names of famous Jewish people. They probably arent quite stupid enough to use direct anti semitism. Pathetic pathetic people.

I don't understand how racist can be confused with Zionist. Not all Jews are Zionists.

Could anyone point me to the anti Semitic comments on the gofundme page? This is a genuine question, as I’ve spent the last hour (when I really don’t have time) looking for these but I can’t see any comments at all on the gofundme site. Lots of links to the media reporting this but no actual comments. I’m genuinely confused.

Apparently the Tories are keen to keep this Corbyn is due running for as long as possible as they are finding it impossible to find any dirt or problems with Starmer. Starmer has become a real worry for the Tories, consequently Tory bots are being employed to continue with the dirt on Corbyn.

Starmer is keen to protect labour finances and understands that a settlement out of court will be 10s of thousands of pounds cheaper than taking the case to court which could result in a bill for millions.

He is being both realistic and sensible.

The reports are expected to be widely critical of Corbyn and his supporters in failing to get to grip with the AS in the party. Corbyn may well find himself subject to litigation, and he may well need every last penny if that fund.

Starmer is determined to draw a line and if this costs - so be it.

Without dealing with this sore, the LP can’t move on.

I read on line this morning that some of those donating to the Go Fund Me page are adding anti semitic comments to their posts. I haven't read the posts so can't confirm or otherwise. My belief is that under Corbyn's leadership anti semitism found a home in the LP . Some either don't understand their comments are anti semitic, or use various disingenuous comments in an attempt to disguise their true beliefs. There are some who seem unable to recognise the way they express support for the people of Palestine is AS. I shouldn't need to add that its possible to criticise the behaviour of the current Israeli government without being anti semitic.