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Response to new covid measures - old v young; left v right

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MawB Fri 31-Jul-20 16:36:10

varian

It is not just in Germany that there are far-right covid refusniks. We have them here too.

‘Mask dissenter’ Ann Widdecombe wants to shop ‘unmuzzled’

www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/mask-dissenter-ann-widdecombe-wants-to-shop-unmuzzled/27/07/

I have divided views on this
Ann Widdecombe is welcome to catch the virus any time she likes, but on the other hand, I wish she had been muzzled years ago.

Lucca Fri 31-Jul-20 16:35:02

Can you believe this woman ?

“”Widdecombe said: “I suspect that mask-haters will, as will I, avoid the shops as much as possible.

“Perhaps,” she continued, “shops should allow certain hours when the mask dissenters can shop unmuzzled in the same way as they have allocated special times to the elderly.”

LadyBella Fri 31-Jul-20 16:31:47

It's hard to believe, after all the TV footage of intensive care units, that anyone can disregard the virus. We are in our 70s and are quite frightened. However our grandchildren are not worried in the slightest. This of course is the problem as there are 2 distinct groups of people.

varian Fri 31-Jul-20 16:23:25

It is not just in Germany that there are far-right covid refusniks. We have them here too.

‘Mask dissenter’ Ann Widdecombe wants to shop ‘unmuzzled’

www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/mask-dissenter-ann-widdecombe-wants-to-shop-unmuzzled/27/07/

AGAA4 Fri 31-Jul-20 16:19:41

I think many young people have gone back to pre-covid activities - parties, meeting up with lots of friends, going to the beach and parks.

My 15 year old GD said when asked about social distancing "we don't bother with that any more"

It is difficult for them as they are at that age when socialising is very important and they don't understand that they can pass the virus to someone who could be badly affected.

The advice and guidance has been confusing too so they can't take all the blame for rising number of cases.

Iam64 Fri 31-Jul-20 16:15:57

Dinahmo, the anti vexers and conspiracy theorists seem to be joining forces and demonstrating here as well.

The same age group as you identify in France, are leading the spike in the UK. As some of that group become very sick, which some will, maybe that will encourage their friends to be more cautious. Some of the covid groups have comments encouraging herd immunity and suggest oldies like us and people with significant health problems are the only people who need to and should isolate.
I agree with you that its the height of selfishness to expect one group to remain locked out of society whilst another group does as it wishes.

I live in Greater Manchester where we have serious lock down again. We also have a large Pakistani/Bangladeshi community. The increase in that community is in those 20 plus who aren't abiding by social distancing (the same as most in their age group). I don't understand why the new restrictions were announced at 9.30pm last night by tweet. Imagine if that happened on Christmas Eve, which is equivalent to Eid which many of our neighbours will be celebrating this weekend. The increase and the imminent arrival of Eid surely can't have been a surprise to Hancock and Johnson. I wish they had introduced this in a more planned way. Local radio was inundated to phone calls from families saying they have 8 cars in the driveway because relatives arrived as planned yesterday evening. What are they supposed to do this morning?

Dinahmo Fri 31-Jul-20 16:04:32

The back lash against confinement seems to be turning into a cause for the right wing and libertarians.

Apparently in Germany this weekend there will be demonstrations against restrictions that have been introduced in order to stem the tide of corona virus. Various groups including anti vaxxers, holocaust deniers, conspiracy theorists and the far right NPD are expected to attend the demo in Berlin.

From my reading of many of the threads on here it does seem as though those opposed to the introduction of new measures tend to be from the right of centre.

in France there has been an increase in the numbers testing positive for covid. In the week to 26 July around 440,000 people were tested and 51% of those showed no symptoms. Of the remainder testing positive 69% were in the age group 15 -44 and of those, the majority were between 20 and 25. That last group, it would seem, are the ones who are most likely to gather at pubs, raves and other open air gatherings.

I fully understand that they want to go out and enjoy themselves whilst for many of us oldies who haven't been directly affected aren't so concerned about joining large gatherings.

However the young don't seem to understand that because they don't get as sick as older people, it's still going to affect those around them. They could unwittingly pass it on to more vulnerable people, including some young people. furthermore we don't yet know all the long term effects of this virus.