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Trump has finally lost it.....

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Luckygirl Tue 04-Aug-20 22:40:47

.......anyone see his interview on the news? His insanity must now be obvious to all - surely no-one will vote for him? Just not possible............

maddyone Fri 28-Aug-20 19:29:21

I do like Melania though.

varian Fri 28-Aug-20 19:37:14

Melania looks relatively harmless but sadly she's not the Republican candidate Maddyone

sparklingsilver28 Fri 28-Aug-20 19:40:04

Fennel

As many have said the only thing we have in common is that we speak the same language.
Their history is so different from ours.
I heard someone on the radio talking about our 'special relatinship' . Rubbish - only when it suits both sides.

Only when it suits America and they want UK help. Vietnam - Harold Wilson thank goodness refused; Pearl Harbour and the Japanese - and when the USA finally agreed in return to help defeat Nazism.

A large majority of American's haven't a clue about the UK, and take no interest, political or otherwise, in what goes on here.

rosecarmel Fri 28-Aug-20 19:49:04

Difficult as it was to do, I watched the RNC-

I liked all of Malania's off the wall choices for clothes-

The main message they collectively attempted to peddle is The American Dream- (TAM)

They attempted to normalize working 3 or more jobs to make ends meet, to achieve TAM-

And then maybe after working your ass off, you might find full time employment and after 90 days of steady FT employment receive healthcare-

The story repeated itself time and again, speaker after speaker-

There's nothing normal about people struggling to make ends meet during the "best of times"- Then during financial downturns, going from bad to worse- And doing so without healthcare-

Message number 2: Biden-

They're mostly right about the guy- Democrats presented 1/2 his story during their convention- The Republicans shared the other half of his story-

Lots of American flags -- like .. lots .. like scary lots, like more than normally displayed on July 4th ..

Approximately 1,500 people attended the last night of the convention, sitting inches apart, outdoors on the South Lawn, less than 1% of the attendees wore masks-

Whitewavemark2 Fri 04-Sept-20 08:06:38

Trump has announced that if he doesn’t win the election it won’t be considered legitimate.

More worryingly though the intelligence community have assessed that once again Russia is actively working to prevent a Democrat from gaining the presidency. It is a repeat of 2016.

Trump seems intent on assisting the Russia’s by trying to limit Congressional oversight, and trying to stop public discussion over the interference.

This is so typical of an authoritarian right wing state, it is almost a stereotype .

The new director of national intelligence Ratcliffe, appointed by Trump, has stated that he will no longer proved in-person briefings, but instead issue a written report which can no longer be questioned.

I seem to remember that this was the sort of thing that provoked Trump’s outrage before the last election.

Deep state.

varian Fri 04-Sept-20 19:26:12

Trump's defeat in November is the most important factor in the future of the Western world.

Biden is uninspiring but he is a decent politician.

Everything about Trump is totally indecent. How can his supporters, many of whom profess to be Christians, not see that?

LullyDully Sat 05-Sept-20 07:54:45

Shame really that us Brits don't get to vote him out. How he could say we loved him when he visited I don't know. " Looser, Sucker".
If the latest new about the military is correct, God help America.

Furret Sat 05-Sept-20 08:05:59

More coming out about Trump calling US war dead ‘losers and suckers’. This from the man who dodged the draft because of bone spurs.

25Avalon Sat 05-Sept-20 08:11:56

Money talks in America so candidates with money get to the top. I find both Trump and Biden scary prospects maybe one more so than the other.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 05-Sept-20 08:36:59

I think Trump is going to win?????

Furret Sat 05-Sept-20 08:58:11

Whitewavemark2

I think Trump is going to win?????

It’s not an election, it’s an intelligence test. They failed the last one....

Whitewavemark2 Sat 05-Sept-20 09:15:25

Furret

Whitewavemark2

I think Trump is going to win?????

It’s not an election, it’s an intelligence test. They failed the last one....

???? much like in the U.K. over the past few years!

Urmstongran Sat 05-Sept-20 10:15:55

I also think Trump is going to win. People often tell pollsters and friends & family what is perceived to be the ‘right’ answer ... and then they go into a polling station!

Sarnia Sat 05-Sept-20 10:20:31

A choice between Trump and Biden. Are these 2 really the best a country the size of the USA has to offer?

Whitewavemark2 Sat 05-Sept-20 15:12:01

The latest gem from Trump.

He described US troops who had died for their country as “losers” and “suckers”

Coming from a draft dodger that is utterly repellent.

He also requested that at a military parade he was attending for there not to be any disabled or wounded veterans ax “nobody wanted to see that”.

Callistemon Sat 05-Sept-20 15:14:26

I think Trump is going to win ?????

Surely not?

God Bless America.

Callistemon Sat 05-Sept-20 15:16:03

Whitewavemark2

The latest gem from Trump.

He described US troops who had died for their country as “losers” and “suckers”

Coming from a draft dodger that is utterly repellent.

He also requested that at a military parade he was attending for there not to be any disabled or wounded veterans ax “nobody wanted to see that”.

It just makes you want to weep.

rosecarmel Sat 05-Sept-20 16:50:16

Sarnia

A choice between Trump and Biden. Are these 2 really the best a country the size of the USA has to offer?

No- Most Americans chose Biden because they were frightened by the idea of a progressive holding office-

Why?

The ones that chose Biden chose to vote against healthcare for everyone, which was the main thing the progressives were pushing-

They are no different than Republicans in that department:

Against healthcare for everyone-

rosecarmel Sat 05-Sept-20 16:55:46

25Avalon

Money talks in America so candidates with money get to the top. I find both Trump and Biden scary prospects maybe one more so than the other.

That's closer to the truth: Money

If Trump can make people money, they will choose him-

silverlining48 Sat 05-Sept-20 17:40:32

Rose why would people vote against health care? I just don’t understand it. Maybe you can explain.
I just can’t understand why anyone with an iota of common sense would vote for trump who acts like a sulky bully, and is barely able to string a cohesive sentence together.
Having said that we have our cross to bear. But trump? Honestly?

JenniferEccles Sat 05-Sept-20 19:20:12

Before the last US election, Andrew Neil spent some time travelling around the States talking to people from all walks of life, and wrote about it in the Mail on Sunday,

He was surprised to hear a great deal of support for Trump and he came away convinced that he would pull it off.

Even though Hilary Clinton was not widely liked, it was still thought preposterous that Donald Trump would be the choice for enough Americans to allow him to win.

I wouldn’t like to predict this time but it wouldn’t surprise me if he did it again.

rosecarmel Mon 07-Sept-20 00:02:58

I think one reason is the shortage of doctors- If everyone were covered it would take forever and a day before one could get in to see a doctor-

I had noticed that for several years there were nurse practitioners filling in- Now, they seemed to have phased them out yet again-

As it stands, it can take months to get in to see a specialist- If everyone were covered, how long would it take?

It's a mess .. And I don't mean to sound like a pessimist but think it will get worse before it gets better- If it ever does- It's a broken country at the moment-

maddyone Mon 07-Sept-20 00:04:48

I don’t think Trump ever had it, so I’m not sure he could lose it.

silverlining48 Mon 07-Sept-20 07:47:18

We have to wait months here too Rose unless something serious is suspected but at least everyone has Equal access to health treatment. It’s the poor that suffer in the USA because they can’t afford the high insurance.
I am no clearer why the American people wouldn’t want health care for others or themselves.
Also curious why socialism seems such a dirty word. Both democrat and republicans are on the right. democrats just slightly closer but nowhere near.
We are in a mess here but instead of Everyone for him/herself we still take the one for all and all for one viewpoint .
Not sure for how long though. Our world is becoming more uncertain,

pollyperkins Mon 07-Sept-20 16:04:27

I agree. In the U.K. some people may not be keen on socialism but its not universally feared as in the US where they seem to equate it with communism. And here many are proud to be called socialists.
Americans I’ve been in contact with say that many object to paying out money for other people’s treatment. In the UK I’ve never met anyone, left or right wing, who doesn’t appreciate the NHS (though there may be criticism of the way it is currently run.) No one I know (and I know a lot of right wingers) wants to see the NHS abolished , even if they have private health insurance themselves.