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Brown Sugar by The Rolling Stones

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Firecracker123 Fri 14-Aug-20 11:35:43

Following on from the thread about the so called tobacco colour bra which caused upset among certain people what do you think of these s lyrics shock

Brown Sugar, just like a black girl should
I bet your mama was a Cajun Queen,
And all her boyfriends were sweet sixteen
I'm no school boy but I know what I like
You should have heard them just around midnight
Brown Sugar, how come you taste so good
Brown Sugar, just like a black girl should
I said, yeah, yeah, yeah, wooo
How come you, how come you dance so good
Yeah, yeah, yeah, wooo
Just like a, just like a black girl should
Yeah, yeah, yeah, wooo
Source: LyricFind
Songwriters: Keith Richards / Mick Jagger

MissAdventure Fri 14-Aug-20 14:40:54

Brown sugar refers to the slaver whipping the girls.
I always thought it was written from that perspective.

Fennel Fri 14-Aug-20 14:42:43

you can see from the comments that others are upset about the deletion.

Oopsminty Fri 14-Aug-20 14:44:34

I think McCartney was commenting on the negative attitudes that were prevalent towards immigrants etc

Found this ...

The song began as a satirical and critical look at attitudes towards immigrants in Britain. Paul McCartney intended to parody the negative attitudes that were prevalent among politicians and the press.

seacliff Fri 14-Aug-20 14:44:38

Rod Stewart Tonight's the Night, Hot Legs etc are not quite the thing these days, even back in the day I think he had to alter the lyrics a bit. Apparently he has now dropped these from his show for fear of offending. Where will it end.

EllanVannin Fri 14-Aug-20 14:46:58

A far cry from songs/lyrics of yesteryear.

Chewbacca Fri 14-Aug-20 14:50:41

You'd go a long way to beat Blurred Lines by Robert Thicke for being offensive. shock

EllanVannin Fri 14-Aug-20 14:53:15

Now I understand why mum called it Devil music smile She said as she threw my " Livin' Doll " record in the bin----"we'll have none of this in this house she used to say ".

What she'd have thought of Eminem, I don't know. grin

Oopsminty Fri 14-Aug-20 14:56:18

Chewbacca

You'd go a long way to beat Blurred Lines by Robert Thicke for being offensive. shock

Robert Thicke is a sweet innocent compared to some songs of today

Hey Mister Mister by Kool J Rap is something of an eyeopener.

Dinahmo Fri 14-Aug-20 15:07:01

I haven't found the lyrics of any of the songs referred to as being offensive. The actual son maybe a different matter. Cliff Richard - too goody goody - much preferred Elvis and Little Richard. Gilbert O'Sullivan? nahhhhhhhhh

mcem Fri 14-Aug-20 15:29:00

Hate to point it out but the 60'S are yesteryear!

GrannyGravy13 Fri 14-Aug-20 15:33:23

There was a track on the album Tighten up Volume 2 the lyrics went lie down girl I ant to push it up push it up lie down girl. Cannot remember the artist but can still see the topless girl on the album cover.

MissAdventure Fri 14-Aug-20 15:35:16

That's "Wet dream".

MissAdventure Fri 14-Aug-20 15:37:12

Max Romeo. I had to Google him.

blondenana Fri 14-Aug-20 15:53:05

All songs relating to colour can't be banned
I think it has all got too ridiculous now, and about the bra colours,OMG what next,and why did M&S apologise?
It''s never ending

POGS Fri 14-Aug-20 15:59:42

If you think these songs are bad you should listen to music of today!

Example, at the time of the Brit Awards the artiste 'Dave' was trumpeted as a some sort of social conscience that we should aspire to, agree with, even on GN.

When I pointed out his lyrics in some of his recordings and those of his musical genre GRIME/DRILL/RAP etc which include the word N****R, Hoe, F**K, sexual exploitation I was more called a racist apologist.

Music today can be outright offensive, meant to cause offence and perversely it is usually coming from artists /musicians/song writers who portray themselves as some sort of social conscience when they can and do in fact exploit racial hatred, be as offensive with their words as they choose whilst attacking others for using them.

If not leading by example what will teach kids and the wider society to not use words such as Hoe, N***ga? If it is normalised in music how do we expect kids not to follow suit. How confused they must be.

If musical artistes ' of the moment ' could use their
activism to stop sexism and racism in general then that would be a good thing but not if they hypocritically carry on using words like N****A, Hoe etc. they are merely creating an atmosphere which they 'claim' to be opposed to.

I put my hands up when I was younger I think my naivety at the time did not make me question lyrics, I never gave thought to mysogyny/mysandry/ sexual exploitation/racism because I didn't understand what they particularly were. Now I am older I obviously see things differently but by hell things certainly have not improved if you listen to some of todays lyrics and that is what I judge to be the bigger problem for society today probably.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 14-Aug-20 16:09:39

POGS I totally agree with you on the Drill/Grime/Rap lyrics which also glorify gun/knife crime.

Chewbacca Fri 14-Aug-20 16:37:29

The Blacker the Berry by Kendrick Lamar is a good example POGS. It's filled with hate.

I'm the biggest hypocrite of 2015
Once I finish this, witnesses will convey just what I mean
Been feeling this way since I was sixteen, came to my senses
You never liked us anyway, fuck your friendship, I meant it
I'm African-American, I'm African
I'm black as the moon, heritage of a small village
Pardon my residence
Came from the bottom of mankind
My hair is nappy, my dick is big, my nose is round and wide
You hate me don't you?
You hate my people, your plan is to terminate my culture
You're fuckin' evil I want you to recognize that I'm a proud monkey
You vandalize my perception but can't take style from me
And this is more than confession
I mean I might press the button just so you know my discretion
I'm caught in my feelings, I know that you feel it
You sabotage my community, makin' a killin'
^You made me a killer, emancipation of a real night

And the last verse

So why did I weep when Trayvon Martin was in the street
When gang banging make me kill a n***a blacker than me?
Hypocrite!

Callistemon Fri 14-Aug-20 17:02:17

Calendargirl

“ Only Sixteen” by Craig Douglas. (I think)

We’d laugh and we’d sing and do little things, that made my heart glow

To be fair, he was meant to be only 16 also.

I was younger than 16 but loved that song!

The thing was - she was only sixteen and she ditched him because she was too young to fall in love.
And he was too young to know that

So all was ok.

Callistemon Fri 14-Aug-20 17:08:26

But that's all ok, Chewbacca
It's when one word which is deemed offensive is sung by someone of white privilege that it's wrong.
No matter if the privileged white person was brought up in an under-privileged home.

ladymuck Fri 14-Aug-20 17:11:53

I'm a great fan of the Rolling Stones but can't always make out the words. Next time I play that song, I'll be able to sing along!

POGS Fri 14-Aug-20 17:22:59

Chewbacca

Easy to find aren't they.

I enjoyed the BBC series ' I MAY DESTROY YOU '. I think every single actor was brilliant and would not be surprised if Michaela Coel does not receive an award eventually, she more than deserves to.

I cannot put the series music lyrics up because they are as I have spoken about, black artistes literally pepper spraying the word 'n'* a at every opportunity and the rest.

That's what made me laugh when the BBC apologised for their reporter saying the word ' n****r' in a news report recently with I believe the blessing of the poor lad who had been reported as suffering a violent racial attack.

Hypocrisy abounds as per normal.

Chewbacca Fri 14-Aug-20 17:26:42

Hypocrisy abounds as per normal

Exactly this POGS; the old do as I say, not as I do routine. And there we are, bending over backwards trying to find names for the colours of knickers and bras that don't cause offence to someone.

TrendyNannie6 Fri 14-Aug-20 17:36:04

My ding a ling, my ding a ling. I want you to play with my ding a ling, once I was climbing the garden wall, I slipped an had a terrible fall. I fell so hard I heard bells ring! But held on to my ding a ling a ling! If I remember Mary whitehouse tried to ban this! I’m sure it got to number one for a few weeks

sharon103 Fri 14-Aug-20 17:36:26

I'm yet to understand why some are offended by M&S naming a bra the colour tobacco.
What next? The banning of brown bread, Black Magic chocolates, black grapes and yes, brown sugar.
Dear oh lor, whatever's it coming to.

TrendyNannie6 Fri 14-Aug-20 17:40:03

What’s new pussycat isn’t about a cat either