Where's the P.M.? Shouldn't he be in view, not hiding away ?

Hurrah: he’s reappeared again. This time blabbering on about ‘mutant algorithms’...

Maizie thanks for further explanations, I’ve only just seen as have been out this afternoon.

I hate that expression ’Those who can do, those who can’t teach.’ Probably because both myself and my husband were teachers. I just think it’s unbelievably rude, especially when said to a teacher. A sellotape salesman once said it straight to my husband’s face. My husband was a Latin and French teacher, and he also taught a bit of maths (maths only to GCSE, not A level, as he did with Latin and French) and his pupils regularly achieved As and A* at GCSE and A level ( not A* at A level as there wasn’t A level A* then.)

He also taught piano in his spare time. He had to stop that though as his career progressed.

Of course the salesman was correct, my husband clearly couldn’t do anything.

Jabberwok

Fighting in the streets? You'd approve of that?!? I don't actually think the military would support civil unrest or support overthrowing a democratically elected government. Not very British and not very democratic!

Do you know what, Jabberwock? Dispensing with the Rule of Law is not very British and not at all democratic.

Dispensing with the Rule of Law what dictators do.

As far as I'm concerned dictators need to be stopped by any possible means.
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Jabberwok

Other than the ballot box would mean civil unrest, to succeed would mean the armed forces supporting the unrest?! Can't really imagine the government being arrested by the military still less the Queen as head of state being under house arrest in Windsor Castle!! Not sure the person in the street would put up with that! I certainly wouldn't and nor would anyone I know.

I’m sure many Russians said the same

Irony is lost on some Maizie .

Maybe they've been invaded by mutant algorithms!

Did you see the pictures of Johnson in the school library delivering the "mutant algorithm" lecture to a group of disinterested-looking pupils?

Behind him, on the shelves were the following books:

Betrayed
The Twits
The Subtle Knife
Fahrenheit 451
Guards! Guards!
The Toll
Oliver Twist
Glass Houses

And a poster ...

Will You Take on the Challenge?

Class!

I missed out:

Crisis Point
Resistance

Well at least Boris was out and about again yesterday facing the press and answering questions, but where again was Kier Starmer in reply, still in bed???????

What has also not been mentioned on this forum is the twelve thousand jobs increase announced by Tesco in its home delivery section. With other supermarket chains carrying out similar it is being estimated that forty thousand plus job roles could be on offer in those distribution centres and on the vehicles.

You have also to add to that number the employment that will be created in companies working in support of those operations, such as training, vehicle servicing and logistics which could double the above figure.

Certainly the above is good news for Britain and speaking in neutrality as a lifelong Labour member and supporter not a bad week at all for the Conservative party and government.

Question is now, will those that have lost their employment in the retail stores at Debenhams etc be prepared to take on the work in those distribution centres and on those vehicles???

Only 3000 of the jobs are for drivers - and they're already employed on temporary contracts.

Johnson was in a school for a photo op, trying to convince the public that classrooms are safe by showing socially distanced children and lying through his teeth. Unfortunately for him, the unedited Channel 4 video showed that most of the children were crammed together, unmasked, sitting only a few inches from each other.

Quietly enjoying Grandad'stransformation to a Boris fan... ?

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Ooh you are awful- but I like you! Really if that's the only support anyone can dredge up for Boris things are worse than I imagined. Maybe Starmer has the right idea-give the man enough rope!

Me too MaisieD

Yes, trisher- indeed

he will go on the attack all in right time... soon. PMQ is going to be amazing.

Starmer hasn't gone away, he is just getting his ducks in a row before taking the safety catch off his shotgun. He hasn't vanished from the political scene, as shown by the number of articles about him in the media in the last few days, if you look for them.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/aug/21/keir-starmer-plays-long-game-to-show-boris-johnson-is-incompetent

www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2020/08/competence-king-why-keir-starmer-avoiding-talking-about-values

labourlist.org/2020/08/labour-is-back-in-the-ring-but-keir-starmers-job-has-hardly-started/

www.spectator.co.uk/article/why-keir-starmer-no-longer-needs-to-fear-the-left-of-his-party

Trouble is that Boris is a sitting target and too easy a shot to miss, continuing your ‘ducks in a line’ analogy. Perhaps he’s wary of pushing a Tory leadership change in the unlikely chance they find someone more capable.

Jabberwock have a bit of charity?it’s all that keeps some posters going ( cheap digs at government and Johnson) since Labour have been out of power for oh so very long!

Grandad1943 is right about Starmer ( and I quite like KS) but he’s hardly going for the throat is he? Usually the opposition can make a meal out of the most trivial thing that the government is doing or saying, but Starmer is very quiet indeed.He shouldn’t be waiting around for PMQ’s!

I wonder what everyone thinks about the government paying extra money to those workers on low wages( who have benefits) so that they are a bit happier about self isolating if they need to? Good isn’t it?Kind of thing a Socialist government would do,
( in fact most of what the government has done is just that, ever since lockdown in March.)Hardly the mark of a very
right wing government. They have done all the things I hoped they would do to help working people.

This is all getting too surreal, with grandad allegedly swings to the right (talking politics not dressing) and lemongrove embracing socialist principles.

lemongrove Do you know how much the government is paying and who will be eligible? It makes a good headline, but it's not really much incentive.

Only those in areas of high infection (eg Manchester) and already claiming WTC/UC. It works out at £13 a day for 10 days.

Nope Furret I merely mentioned that fact ( what a Socialist government would do) to show how Johnson et al are not fiercely right wing as a few on GN like to think, and to highlight the fact that a Socialist government could hardly have done more to help people keep their jobs.

A socialist government - well, any government actually committed to making something work - would pay an amount which would realistically compensate for lost earnings.

Yes, thank you growstuff I did know the facts and figures surrounding this.

lemongrove

Nope Furret I merely mentioned that fact ( what a Socialist government would do) to show how Johnson et al are not fiercely right wing as a few on GN like to think, and to highlight the fact that a Socialist government could hardly have done more to help people keep their jobs.

A socialist government would have paid compensation in line with something like jury service.

Johnson isn't traditionally right-wing (in the same ways the Nazis weren't), which is why he has some of the Tory backbenchers frothing at the mouth.

lemongrove

Yes, thank you growstuff I did know the facts and figures surrounding this.

I assumed you didn't because it's a pathetic amount.