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Harassing migrants by the far right

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Whitewavemark2 Sat 29-Aug-20 06:51:55

Video footage has emerged of members of a far right group entering a place of safety and refuge for migrants and showing them knocking on doors saying that as tax payers they have every right to question these people.

It sent shivers down my spine as it seemed to echo the behaviour in 1930s Germany.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 29-Aug-20 13:15:26

biba70

Those left of centre are just as likely to be racist as anyone else.

Pantglas2 Sat 29-Aug-20 13:11:50

I have no political leanings although I’m perceived as right wing by my Labour friends and family and a lefty by the Tories!

To suggest that only right wingers are racist is a disingenuous nonsense - I have been dropped on Facebook and real life by two different friends (one staunch Momentum, t’other card carrying commie) because I didn’t ‘like’ their anti Semitic jokes.

LauraNorder Sat 29-Aug-20 13:10:22

Can only really give anecdotal examples.
A horrid old cousin of mine and his cronies, great fans of Arthur Scargill, Michael Foot and more recently Corbyn still use the most abhorrent racist language.
An apparently intelligent, degree holding, Conservative voter I know is overtly racist.
A Libdem acquaintance was recently overheard complaining at falling property values as the area was being taken over by ......................I won't repeat his words but believe me they were racist.
I have friends of all colours, creeds and political persuasions who are not racist. Good and bad in everyone but thankfully mostly good.

biba70 Sat 29-Aug-20 13:08:50

GG13, no, this is not what I said- but yes, the vast majority are.

Gwyneth Sat 29-Aug-20 13:00:05

And I deplore the way migrants have been treated as any decent human being would.

Gwyneth Sat 29-Aug-20 12:56:39

Ditto Grannygravys post. I have no particular political leanings and yes I have a life outside this forum. I’m tired of the implication that if your politics are not extreme left wing then you must be a racist. Neither do I agree with the persistent nasty and personal comments re Boris Johnson and his partner and child. I’ve noticed that there are some posters on here no matter what the thread is about have to make uncalled for comments about Boris Johnson. You need to get a life because it’s getting very tedious and boring.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 29-Aug-20 12:55:42

biba70 are you saying that only those folks who are right of centre are capable of being racist?

If so that is one of the most ludicrous posts I have ever seen on GN!!

biba70 Sat 29-Aug-20 12:53:57

shape and size, yes- not political persuasions, in my experience. None of those I am 'aligned with' politically are racist.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 29-Aug-20 12:49:39

biba70 racist folks come in all shapes, sizes and political persuasions.

biba70 Sat 29-Aug-20 12:47:08

Could you define this? As it is not my experience at all.

MissAdventure Sat 29-Aug-20 12:44:15

It makes perfect sense to me.

biba70 Sat 29-Aug-20 12:42:38

just an observation - so thanks for your contributions.

However, I have to disagree that there are racists on all sides of the political spectrum. Makes no sense.

LauraNorder Sat 29-Aug-20 12:24:38

Ditto GrannyGravy's post.

All decent human beings deplore racism and Conservatives are no exception.

There are racists on all sides of the political spectrum, I doubt many of them could even write X on a ballot paper.

merlotgran Sat 29-Aug-20 12:17:45

Ditto GrannyGravy's post.

biba I think you will find that a lot of us are well used to your taunting and that's why some choose to ignore your comments.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 29-Aug-20 12:12:56

biba70

but it seems our GN colleagues with right leanings, and those definitely right wing- do not comment.

Sorry biba70 this right of centre GN has a life outside of GN!!!

I have just seen this thread, and like most people totally deplore the actions of this group.

If the evidence is admissible then they should be brought to justice. Hopefully if they are prosecuted with a stiff sentence it will deter others from the same organisation committing what is in my opinion a heinous crime.

biba70 Sat 29-Aug-20 12:02:41

but it seems our GN colleagues with right leanings, and those definitely right wing- do not comment.

growstuff Sat 29-Aug-20 11:39:54

Bixiboo

Never heard of this group before but surely they must realise that migrants need to be housed somewhere. It’s a complicated issue and will definitely not go away. Racial hatred cannot be tolerated.

Britain First, the group behind the harrassment, was formed in 2011.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britain_First

The police and anti-terrorism officials are well aware of them.

Oopsminty Sat 29-Aug-20 11:34:50

This footage made me so angry when I saw it this morning

Ignorant morons

What gives them the right to intimidate and harass?

I felt for the chap with his wife and children. He was being polite and it was just horrid to see these idiots demanding answers from him.

Callistemon Sat 29-Aug-20 11:23:34

He's the man who abused Anna Soubry, he is the one who called her a Nazi!

Bixiboo Sat 29-Aug-20 11:03:05

Never heard of this group before but surely they must realise that migrants need to be housed somewhere. It’s a complicated issue and will definitely not go away. Racial hatred cannot be tolerated.

trisher Sat 29-Aug-20 10:44:18

link www.met.police.uk/true-vision-report-hate-crime/

trisher Sat 29-Aug-20 10:43:45

Just looked at their website and one of the hotels they targetted is in Newcastle. The staff are amazing, so calm and controlled. One consolation for me was that the commentary was not made by any Geordie the accent was southern. But this is instigating racial hatred. The website should be taken down immediately. I've reported the website to the police-https://www.met.police.uk/true-vision-report-hate-crime/

EllanVannin Sat 29-Aug-20 10:27:42

Around 200 asylum-seekers are staying at the Daresbury Hotel. Home Office is funding them.
"Officers attended the premises and on arrival the group had left the site.No complaints were made by anyone present at the hotel ".

Where do people expect them to stay ??

To make matters worse, the group didn't wear face masks and weren't socially distanced.

biba70 Sat 29-Aug-20 10:14:16

Just dreadful and disgusting, inhumane. Yes, exactly what my mother witnessed in the early 30s in Germany- that is how it started.

EllanVannin Sat 29-Aug-20 08:47:13

Shocking. I read this earlier as it happened in Daresbury ? Is this the one ?