The new rules for coronavirus - how will it affect your family?

Nannan2

Also theres too many different rules for 4 countries in what are supposed to be a united kingdom! ONE set of rules for ALL four countries(England, Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales) is what we need, and what we SHOULD have!How are we possibly united?Then we should unite, and ALL be same, or be four separate countries if they all want different rules & different laws & different benefits etc.

I agree Nannan2

If I’ve fully understood the Scottish govt update today, Scotland will now have the 6 person from 2 household rule imposed. However, children under 12 will not be counted in the total.

There are 3 of us at home so other son, wife and 2 GC will not all be able to visit together. Personally I feel those of us who obeyed the rules are being penalised while those who bent them are still being allowed to go to pubs etc. Have never understood how you are at less risk from strangers and more at risk from those who care about you and would never put you at risk.

Our bubble consist of DH, DS and I who live together, DD and partner, plus DGSx2 we have been in this bubble for weeks. We've not had any other visitors or been to anyones house, pub or restaurant.
We will not be changing this.

Stop worrying about Christmas. By the time Father Christmas has done his 14 days isolation between each country it will be 2025 and hopefully we’ll have a successful vaccine.
On a serious note I agree with Grandad, Growstuff and others. Let’s make whatever sacrifices we have to for the greater good and it will all be over much sooner.

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It looks like Ms Sturgeon waited to see the reaction of Boris' pronouncement and has sensibly adapted it to exclude children under twelve. Hopefully Mr J will follow suit shortly. It's silly that at the moment in England newborn counts towards the quota of six (or have I got that wrong?)

I think the angst about Christmas in September when we are confronting a worrying rise in Covid infections is misplaced. Let’s deal with the current situation by accepting the rules and we might even be able to think about next year more positively. We have seen our AC and their families once this year and doubt if we will see them again and yes, it is painful, but with luck we will be here to enjoy them next year.

We have 4 adult children and 3 grandchildren. The rule of 6 means we can not see them all over Christmas as they usually all come to stay. We will have to choose one set of parents/grandchildren.

I have a sneaking feeling that I’m going to count our three Gdcs as two. The 2 elder are still small and the baby of 8 months is usually firmly attached to dd anyway, so they only count as one unit, don’t they? ?

In Scotland's new rules, under 12s do not count in the six people limit.

NfkDumpling

It looks like Ms Sturgeon waited to see the reaction of Boris' pronouncement and has sensibly adapted it to exclude children under twelve. Hopefully Mr J will follow suit shortly. It's silly that at the moment in England newborn counts towards the quota of six (or have I got that wrong?)

I agree, children under 12 should not be included in the rule of 6....
that would make large groups of teenagers, young people having raves, parties, large gatherings, saturday night drink fests easier to spot and break up. Whilst leaving smaller family groups safe and happy.
In the beginning of this pandemic, they predicated a sharp spike in the Autumn, so I'm not sure why anyone's surprised by it.

Why can't we follow Scotland s example. No more than 6 to meet in a house but children under 12 don't count in the total. This would make life so much better for families more than 2 children.

Just a thought. Once children are tucked up and fast asleep in bed upstairs for the night; does that mean parents with 3 or 4 children can then entertain friends or relatives up to the maximum 6 people downstairs as the children clearly wouldn't be socialising with them

In the beginning of this pandemic, they predicated a sharp spike in the Autumn, so I'm not sure why anyone's surprised by it.

Yes, it is as predicted, unfortunately.

You know, if it was children under twelve don't count, some people would be posting that their grandchild has only just had their 13th birthday and how unfair it is ?

Just a thought.

Come on now, SpecialK!
You are not supposed to think.

We had planned a celebration for 10. So now booking 2 separate tables x5 in restaurant. They have agreed to put them At least 2metres apart.

Nanna2 I think it has to be 6 now though

How will it affect me? Socially I will now be able to meet with five other people ( all from different households possibly) indoors whereas before only two households were allowed indoors. Much better than shivering in the garden over the winter! But my WI were just starting to look at ways to hold a face to face meeting for up to 30 people at our usual venue, that is now on hold while the National Board consult with their legal team to see how the new laws affect things. The WI is both a charity and community group and in the constitution refers to "educating women" so I suspect they are going to claim exemption. I don't agree with that though, in my opinion the rise in cases is due in part to people ingnoring guidelines or finding ways round them ie by booking tables in reastuarants next to another one to allow larger groups to meet. At least now the guidelines have become a law, people might stop if they risk a fine.

Chris Whitty mentioned Belgium as a country that managed to get a grip on the rise in new cases. I personally think we should be as strict as they were - their social groups were fixed, ie a group was restricted to a certain number and none of those members could socialise with anyone else. Much more restricting than what we will have in place from Monday.

I suspect that my sister will no follow the new rules for my nieces 18th birthday as she is planning to have an open house type gathering, with just a few people popping round at a time throughout the afternoon and evening. But as they are a household of four and most of the invited guests are in households of more than two, it is not allowed. It wasn't before either but no risk of a fine then in reality. Will I be strong enough to stick to my moral high ground and refuse to go - not sure!

MaizieD

DiscoDancer1975

Technically it is Callistemon. Could I call on your services if needed, if I have to argue it out in court!!?. Thank you anyway?.

I think that if you break the rules in a specific and limited way you'll be fine.

Or if you can invoke the Dom defence....

Oh MaizieD that was a LOL moment ????

I must swot up on the Dom Defence as it left me in a state of confusion.

Just wish I had more than 10 people. In total we are 8 inc 2 grandchildren. So will everyone I meet stop wingeing that they can't meet up for big party celebrations makes me feel very, very lonely

The Rule of Six won’t make any real difference to us.
We have not been inside anyone’s house for 6 months, nor has anyone been inside ours, and that won’t change.
DH has not seen any of his family this year as they live a long way and he has no plans to travel. ( Nor has he seen his osteopath, so is in a lot of pain. ) His daughter lives alone, so it would be illegal, but too risky. I have seen some of mine in their garden , or on our drive, but now that the teenagers are back at school we are definitely keeping our distance.

My sister in a care home has not had any visitors for 6 months.

We are not prepared to take risks, as DH is vulnerable and we are both over 70.

Six is easy to grasp. Boris’s slogan is easy enough for him to remember.
Yes, it would be better if young children did not count, and if all four countries of the UK had the same rules, but heigh ho, we need to do all we can to stop the virus spreading.

Legal, not illegal, to see his daughter. Sorry.