Another Brexit "benefit"

I would like a deal.
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I think it will happen.

Back to Barclaycard ...

I'd better get on to URSSAF then mokryna. That should be fun!

Theresa May no deal is better than a bad deal

Oops premature posting, I think that there will be a deal, beneficial to all.

We were NOT promised an oven ready deal, we were promised an oven ready W.A which we got! Spot the difference?!!
Well my SIL lived in France at the time of the referendum and after a lot of thought sold their house and moved back to England mainly for future health reasons. They certainly didn't have an issue with us because of the way we voted, and we certainly don't feel remotely guilty! At the time nobody voted for a deal or no deal, because we weren't asked! It was a simple IN or OUT. Surely anyone living in Europe must have realised that things would almost certainly alter and at least have put feelers out as time went on and make a few enquiries and a few contingency plans? after all there must be people outside the EU living in an EU country,? How do they manage?!

oh yes, we were - promised a Deal - again and again.

Callistemon

Hetty58

It's hardly a tragedy if you can't use a Barclaycard - is it? It seems a very petty gripe to me.

We gave up on Barclaycards about 20 years ago for another reason.
We gave up on M&S credit cards for a different reason.
There are umpteen choices for alternative cards.
I can't see what the problem is.

I have had my Barclaycard for 40 years and had no reason to change. It's served me well during that time. I have had other cards and my OH has an HSBC card which he is about to close because it's been a nightmare to deal with on occasion.

I/we have 4 current and savings accounts with a different bank in the UK. Despite that I could not take out a loan because I don't have a UK residential address.

So no, there are not umpteen choices for us expats.

No doubt I will get a French credit card but I use my English card for UK purchases.

Opal

So you would expect me to forego my democratic right to vote in the way I choose, just to ensure that you are not inconvenienced? Hmm, I wonder if you would do the same for me? I very much doubt it.

What are you on about? Of course you have a democratic right to vote how you chose. I wouldn't be at all surprised however, if it comes back to bite you.

However, I do think that UK residents are going to find themselves inconvenienced at some point even if it's just delays when going on holiday.

And, did you know that in order to prevent you experiencing inconvenience in obtaining your covid tests, both France and Germany are testing UK samples?

Ellianne

I'd better get on to URSSAF then mokryna. That should be fun!

I don’t know about that office because I dealt with sécurité sociale l’assurance retraite, agric-arrco and ircantec ( because I worked in state schools). If you don’t ask you don’t get. Good luck

biba70

How unnecessarily uncaring and flippant! How could thea y possibly imagine that some banks would stop them using their exisiting cards.

Oopsadaisy- same for you. the point is, that people made the decision to go and live in the EU, secure in the knowledge their pensions and the access to them via their long held UK bank accounts, would be secure.

Callistemon 'There are umpteen choices for alternative cards.
I can't see what the problem is.' - then you are not looking very hard. People who live in the EU have UK pensions, based on a lifetime of contributions in the UK - paid into their UK bank accounts and later transferred. If you live abroad, you cannot have a choice of credit cards - really, it is not hard to understand.

paid into their UK bank accounts and later transferred. If you live abroad, you cannot have a choice of credit cards - really, it is not hard to understand.

I thought we were discussing credit cards, not bank accounts.

Two different things.

LauraNorder

Those who have chosen to live in warmer climes and transfer their UK pension to other shores to benefit the economy of other countries can't really expect sympathy from those of us who choose to stay, choose to support our economy and choose sovereignty over being governed from afar, when banks pick them up on the illegal practice of using the address of others to keep their UK accounts open.
Plenty of world banks will be happy to accept their business so I suggest looking in to a different bank.

You have missed the point a bit. The reason I'm fed up with losing my Barclaycard is because I use it to spend in the UK.

Are you aware that anyone employed by the UK state and who lives abroad, is taxed on their pension in the UK and they don't get their tax back. They do get a credit for it when they fill in a tax return in their country of residence so they are not doubly taxed. This applies to teachers, NHS workers and so on. It does not apply to the state pension.

And, did you know that in order to prevent you experiencing inconvenience in obtaining your covid tests, both France and Germany are testing UK samples?

I fail to understand what that has to do with credit cards.

Ooh dear, I have a dislike of people who move abroad and then criticise things about the UK. Neither France nor Britain are better, just different.

Dinahmo
I/we have 4 current and savings accounts with a different bank in the UK.

Would it be possible to say what savings bank allows you to have an account without a UK address please, as I was forced to close mine 2 years ago? Thanks

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Ellianne 'Ooh dear, I have a dislike of people who move abroad and then criticise things about the UK. Neither France nor Britain are better, just different.'

this thread does not do that at all- it is complaining about the massive inconvenience of goal posts changing places, after on has done very careful research.

I think this could be to do with money laundering and not Brexit, as it is the same for people in non-EU countries.

biba70
Sorry, but I was referring to the comment about covid testing which was completely irrelevant and had nothing to do with goalposts changing.

For those saying "well you chose to live abroad"; up until we left the EU we had rights to live anywhere within the EU and keep all the benefits of our UK citizenship as well as our EU citizenship. So "choosing to live abroad" in the EU wasn't like moving to Outer Mongolia. And before anyone tells me what they had to do differently in France/Spain/Germany/wherever, I lived in France. So for example, we needed a Carte de Sejour ID card, but all the French people needed ID cards as well. Losing the right of free movement around the EU is a huge deal and it will deprive people and organisations of opportunities.

But the leavers seemed to believe that freedom of movement was a bad thing because it meant pesky foreigners coming here, not us or our children and grandchildren having the right to extend our horizons and life experience by living and working in 27 other European countries

My husband lives in France whilst my main home is in the UK. Due to the lack of availability of information on how life would be for British residents in the EU post Brexit, it is impossible for them to make plans. Barclaycard is one of the first organisations to actually provide information, be it unpopular with its customers.

Do you remember that Barclays supported the apartheid regime in South Africa? Or do those of you who voted for Brexit support apartheid as a concept?

DH worked in universities in France and here in the UK. His students always had the opportunity to spend a term at an institution in another EU country. Almost all the French students took it up, not one of the UK students did. I think that's very telling about our attitudes, even among the young.

So many of my students went to study for a term or year in EU, with Erasmus programme. Our eldest did too, and went with quite a significant group from her Uni. Sadly, this option will no longer be available for our grandchildren.

I'm glad to hear that biba70. Maybe DH's students were just a stay at home bunch!

Callistemon

I think this could be to do with money laundering and not Brexit, as it is the same for people in non-EU countries.

No it hasn't. We were checked for money laundering when selling our last house in England and transferring the balance to France.