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Dinahmo Thu 17-Sept-20 12:26:30

Those of us living in the EU are about to be deprived of the use of our Barclaycards as a direct result of the UK leaving the EU. Like many others who have retired to France, Spain, Portugal, Italy and other EU countries my income derives from the UK and I use my card to purchase items from the UK and also when we visit.

So, a hearty thank you to all you Leavers for making our lives just that little bit more difficult.

biba70 Sun 20-Sept-20 22:04:03

Daft, for sure.

Urmstongran Sun 20-Sept-20 22:07:34

I remember after Brexit a poster called jura2 was often posting about neighbours who wanted to sell up and move back but had ‘problems’. I was pretty sceptical about some of those tales. Some ex-pats live under the radar/don’t comply with regulations regarding alterations to their premises, enjoy the life of Reilly then squeal when the chips are down.

Chickens often do come home to roost ...

biba70 Sun 20-Sept-20 22:11:31

Why were you sceptical- they do indeed. come to roost.

Some of us on the other hand, always abide by all laws and regs- but the goal posts change in a way that is totally un-expected.

Urmstongran Sun 20-Sept-20 22:13:49

That’s true biba.

I was sceptical because some of the tales didn’t add up. But jura used to get quite het up on their behalf.

biba70 Sun 20-Sept-20 22:16:38

You must be mistaken there, why would she? Do you think she was condoning it?

Most expats abide by the rules, and do NOT condone those who do not.

Mind you, I have known people who have 're-invented' themselves when moving from one part of UK to another, professionally or otherwise.

MaizieD Sun 20-Sept-20 22:17:08

As jura lives in Switzerland (clue, 'jura') I don't see that Brexit would have any effect on her neighbours residence arrangements as Switzerland is not in the EU. So I think you're misremembering, Ug

OTOH, she was most upset about the drop in the value of sterling as she and her OH had UK pensions.

Urmstongran Sun 20-Sept-20 22:26:10

I recall jura quite well thank you MaizieD (and the reason for her moniker). She had friends in France - I think she used to hop over the border there for less expensive food shopping - and used to get upset on some French ex-pats behalves regarding Brexit.

MaizieD Sun 20-Sept-20 22:26:11

Actually, Ug, as jura is no longer around to counter your unpleasant suspicions I think you should keep them to yourself...

Urmstongran Sun 20-Sept-20 22:27:53

There was nothing at all unpleasant in what I said about jura. Stop casting aspersions.

MaizieD Sun 20-Sept-20 23:18:28

You're accusing her of lying, Ug. Aspersions coming from you, I think.

mokryna Sun 20-Sept-20 23:40:58

I have had an English bank account since the early 70s. I have an English pension and commitments in English including paying English taxes, so I do hope they are not going to close this account. Imagine the to-ing and fro-ing of money. I am not under the radar, the French tax know of the English pension. I just hope I will not be paying tax twice, once in each country for the same thing next year.

Ellianne Mon 21-Sept-20 00:03:30

Is moving to HSBC an option for those of you living in France? It has nearly 400 branches there.

mokryna Mon 21-Sept-20 00:22:49

That is my bank In England but I don’t want my English pension paid into a HSCB French bank here suffering haphazard exchange rates and then have to send it back to pay bills.. A few years ago I did have a problem with the HSBC in England but unfortunately the Versailles branch didn’t want to know, as it was only for business.

MawB2 Mon 21-Sept-20 07:50:24

The expense of health care in Switzerland seems to be a common problem, but life is expensive there isn’t it?

Whitewavemark2 Mon 21-Sept-20 07:52:19

I love Switzerland.

Ellianne Mon 21-Sept-20 07:59:12

Switzerland would be my dream. I've helped several families relocating to Zurich for work and have invitations to visit. Their houses look amazing. I think you have to live there for about 10+ years to qualify for residency etc etc?

MawB2 Mon 21-Sept-20 07:59:48

TBH the knock on effects of Brexit -big or small- are going to go on coming to light. If only the Remain campaign had been clearer about the implications.
A good friend voted Leave, despite having a holiday home in the Limousin - I could not understand her vote either. She then went on to moan about the extra complications attached to taking their dog with them when they go.
Wisely, I think, I zipped my lip. There is nothing to be gained from saying I told you so, but it’s not just the “bigger” trade issues is it?

Whitewavemark2 Mon 21-Sept-20 08:03:35

MawB2

TBH the knock on effects of Brexit -big or small- are going to go on coming to light. If only the Remain campaign had been clearer about the implications.
A good friend voted Leave, despite having a holiday home in the Limousin - I could not understand her vote either. She then went on to moan about the extra complications attached to taking their dog with them when they go.
Wisely, I think, I zipped my lip. There is nothing to be gained from saying I told you so, but it’s not just the “bigger” trade issues is it?

Blimey maw we couldn't have made it any clearer - the pitfalls.

But remember “project fear”

Every brexiter has cloth ears and will continue to have until it hits them in the face. Then they will say “no one told us”

Ellianne Mon 21-Sept-20 08:07:27

I can understand what you mean, Mokryna, it is very complicated. We were lucky and when we sold a 2nd home in France we stashed the money in an account there for future use. We have a while to wait for pensions, so that aspect wouldn't worry us if we decided to live abroad in the EU again. I will keep thinking of a loophole for you!

Ellianne Mon 21-Sept-20 08:09:21

And yes, even dogs are having a hard time of it! grin

lemongrove Mon 21-Sept-20 08:12:22

MaizieD

Actually, Ug, as jura is no longer around to counter your unpleasant suspicions I think you should keep them to yourself...

The ‘suspicions’ must be all in your head MaizieD there was nothing unpleasant in Urmstongran’s post.
In any case it’s quite obvious that she is very much around....?

MawB2 Mon 21-Sept-20 08:18:33

Blimey maw we couldn't have made it any clearer - the pitfalls

I don’t agree.
Many ordinary people were blindsided by the facile arguments and catchphrases of the Leave campaign and felt much of what Remain stood for didn’t apply to them as it came across as urban, intellectual, (theatre, music, the arts) academic (study abroad, Erasmus) middle class ( second homes in France or Italy) or political (Irish backstop which nobody understood) and its spokespeople belonged in another “posh”world with little relevance to the average person.
Why do you think there was so much support in certain socio-economic groups and geographical areas?
But forget that for now, just don’t anybody be surprised at what will continue to come out of the woodwork.

MaizieD Mon 21-Sept-20 08:21:17

Not your fight, lemon. No need to stir it.

Ellianne Mon 21-Sept-20 08:22:05

Yes, lemongrove, I thought the introduction of jura to the discussion added a new interesting dimension. Not that I have a clue who she is! It was refreshing to hear about an individual crossing the border to buy their food in a cheaper country. Where are the unpleasant suspicions? Is she a spy or something? That sounds fun!

MawB2 Mon 21-Sept-20 08:23:58

MaizieD

Not your fight, lemon. No need to stir it.

No fight MaizieD
No stirring