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Uh Uh Harry ?

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Calendargirl Wed 23-Sept-20 18:40:49

Oh Harry.

Please leave the political comments to Meghan.

Just keep it zipped

?

Lucca Sat 03-Oct-20 18:09:34

beverly10

pantglas.
There is no fear how Harry and Meghan are living their lives will effect the future of the British monarchy unlike that which occurred when Camilla decided she wanted another woman's husband, by hook or by crook, regardless .

Don’t think you’re allowed to say that on here....

merlotgran Sat 03-Oct-20 18:11:54

Callistemon

^Where else have they been other than Elton John's villa, a luxury pad in Ibiza and a Vancouver Island mansion?^

They did visit Australia and were very well received there.
In fact, I wondered if they might go to live there and save the forests.

They were representing the Queen so the whole trip was paid for by the taxpayer.

What have they done off their own bat?

If Covid is the reason they haven't been able to mix with communities from other countries/cultures then they shouldn't imply they have.

Anniebach Sat 03-Oct-20 18:39:43

Mrs Manakee. Mrs. Carling. Mrs.Hoare , yes Beverly ?

trisher Sat 03-Oct-20 21:56:55

Well actually they did do a lot of travelling (I know how important accuracy is to the posters on these threads)
July 2018 IrelandThe Duke and Duchess of Sussex visited Dublin, Ireland, at the request of the British government. This was the first official overseas tour of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex after their wedding in May 2018.
15–31 October 2018 Australia
Fiji
Tonga
New ZealandIn June 2018, Kensington Palace announced that the Duke and Duchess of Sussex would tour Australia, Fiji, Tonga and New Zealand around the time of the Invictus Games, which was held in Sydney in October 2018.[54][55]
26–27 November 2018 ZambiaThe Duke of Sussex took part in a commemoration service for Zambian military veterans and attended an event of The Queen's Commonwealth Trust.[56]
14 February 2019 NorwayThe Duke of Sussex visited British servicemen and women in Bardufoss.[57][58]
23–25 February 2019 MoroccoThe Duke and Duchess of Sussex visited Casablanca, the Atlas Mountains and Rabat. They visited projects centered on the issues of "women's empowerment, girls' education, inclusivity and encouragement of social entrepreneurship".[59]
9 May 2019 NetherlandsThe Duke of Sussex visited The Hague and attended events to mark the official launch of the 2020 Invictus Games.[60]
24 May 2019 ItalyThe Duke of Sussex visited Rome to take part in a fundraising polo match for his charity Sentebale.[61]
3 September 2019 NetherlandsThe Duke of Sussex travelled to Amsterdam to launch Travalyst, an initiative "to encourage sustainable practices in the travel industry".[62]
23 September–2 October 2019 South Africa
Malawi
Angola
BotswanaThe Duke of Sussex visited the Southern African countries at the request of the Foreign and Commonwealth Office. He was accompanied by the Duchess of Sussex and their son Archie in South Africa and later made solo appearances in Malawi and Angola. The trip also included a short working visit to Botswana by the Duke. As President of African Parks and Patron of Rhino Conservation Botswana, the Duke of Sussex raised awareness about wildlife issues and visited the MOD-African Parks. In his capacity as President of the Queen's Commonwealth Trust, he carried out engagements related to socio-economic and environmental challenges.[63] The tour included a walk by Harry in a former minefield in Angola where his mother Diana, Princess of Wales, had walked and raised awareness about before her death.[64] This was followed by a visit to a British military unit in Malawi. The Duke also attended the renaming ceremony of an orthopaedic centre in Huambo, Angola, which was renamed the Princess Diana Orthopaedic Centre in his mother's honour.[65]
2 November 2019 JapanThe Duke of Sussex attended the 2019 Rugby World Cup Final in Yokohama.
And of course they did have a baby.
Interestingly in 2013 the year Prince George was born the Cambridges made no foreign trips.

Lucca Sat 03-Oct-20 22:43:16

Anniebach you really didn’t like Diana did you!

Lucca Sat 03-Oct-20 22:43:47

Trisher, thanks for the informative post.

Callistemon Sat 03-Oct-20 22:45:49

What have they done off their own bat?

Oh, I see what you mean, merlotgran.

Meghan used to do quite a lot of campaigning before she met Harry. He is very good PR for her in the States, isn't he, just by being there.

Callistemon Sat 03-Oct-20 22:47:39

trisher
I've said before, I thought they would be a tremendous asset to the RF, particularly in Commonwealth countries.

It's a great shame.

Anniebach Sun 04-Oct-20 08:59:55

Lucca I didn’t like her lies, her manipulating ,

Sparklefizz Sun 04-Oct-20 09:46:14

Anniebach

Lucca I didn’t like her lies, her manipulating ,

Anniebach But what about Charles' lies and cover-ups? What about Charles' wedding vows when he still loved Camilla? I know you loathe Diana but you can't pile all the blame on her.

Anniebach Sun 04-Oct-20 10:03:04

Sparklefizz I do not loathe Diana, I have never laid all the
blame on her but I have never believed the innocent lamb to
the slaughter so many here believe .

I have always said the villains in that tragic affair was Johnnie
Spencer and Lady Fermoy.

Sarnia Sun 04-Oct-20 10:12:47

Ellianne

They're at it again in a new video interview with another newspaper. I watched a few minutes but for me Harry once again lost the plot. I find his current attitude to Britain and the British quite insulting. Does he think we all go round with our eyes closed on important issues here?

Harry is a changed man, isn't he? Pre-Meghan he was a much loved Prince in this country. He always had a smile on his face but now Meghan is in the picture Harry seems filled with so much angst. I feel it has to come from her and her views. Harry is besotted with her but he appears far from happy. I agree with your view about his remarks on Britain. He must have caused so much sadness for his grandmother, our Queen.

Jaberwok Sun 04-Oct-20 10:19:34

Not forgetting the late Queen Mothers part in instigating that unhappy marriage! She and Lady Fermoy were said to be close friends!

Anniebach Sun 04-Oct-20 10:30:17

Definitely the queen mother ,but I can understand why she
supported arranged marriages, she was in an arranged marriage, but Lady Fermoy helped her son in law to have
custody of the Spencer children , Diana wasn’t the first choice, that was Sarah Spencer.

Sparklefizz Sun 04-Oct-20 10:34:26

If anyone has watched Series 3 of The Crown, whilst it may not be strictly true, I recognised many facts re the Charles/Camilla/Parker Bowles/Princes Anne/Diana saga and how he ended up proposing to Diana, who said herself later on that they had only spent about 11 occasions together during the so-called courtship.

Camilla was deemed unsuitable because she had a racy past and was two-timing Charles with Parker-Bowles, (who was in turn also seeing Princess Anne), so the families decided it was best for Camilla to go ahead and marry PB while Charles was at sea in order to get her out of the equation.

Lexisgranny Sun 04-Oct-20 10:36:16

I think Meghan and Harry are being ill advised. This constant release of advice and comment is counter productive as the reaction in the press and from social media, the reaction seems to be “oh no not them again”. Before anyone comments, from what other source can public opinion be gauged? If they spaced their sound bites out, instead of this drip feeding, maybe, just maybe, people would take more notice. Having said that, being told what to do by someone who has left the country was never likely to go down well.

Anniebach Sun 04-Oct-20 10:38:15

Camilla loved Parker Bowles. Q

Callistemon Sun 04-Oct-20 11:14:03

I don't think the families decided, Sparklefizz, or at least not Camilla's family.
I think she is strong minded enough to have decided for herself. She realised Charles was out of the equation but had grown to love Andrew P-B.

Anniebach Sun 04-Oct-20 11:29:42

I find ‘Camilla had a racy past’ amusing . The 60’s and she wasn’t a virgin.

And the rubbish that Diana was examined to see if she could
have children, seems unexplained infertility was unknown to
her medical team

paddyanne Sun 04-Oct-20 11:33:25

Jabberwok May I just point out that for now Scotland is still a part of the UK therefore I am still a citizen of said union....I am as entitled to my opinion as someone who lives in Windsor or Oxford or anywhere else in England.There is a growing call for the end of the monarchy ..yes even down south ,so maybe you should get used to being without them in the future....sooner rather than later I hope !

Gwenisgreat1 Sun 04-Oct-20 11:33:43

If we are getting all this crap from them, why can't we have a photo of Archie?

Kleberty2 Sun 04-Oct-20 11:39:40

The thing is with royals and ex-royals is that they all want to have their cake and eat it. We have ex-royal Harry reportedly being heartbroken that his brother is taking over the role he had as Captain General of the Marines. He either wants to be a royal or he doesn’t.
Then we have William and his wife who have taken a break from complaining bitterly at every opportunity about their children’s privacy being invaded (quite rightly) to yesterday exploiting their children for personal publicity purposes.
I suppose once they are satisfied that their pro-environment pro-animal-welfare credentials have been established in the public’s psyche they’ll be off hunting wild boar or shooting grouse out of the sky. Hypocrites.

Ellianne Sun 04-Oct-20 11:45:17

I agree with Lexisgranny that by constantly putting themselves out there on this matter or the other, we no longer take notice when they might have something interesting or relevant to say. Too much exposure makes us fed up with them.
Gwen has a point, maybe less waffling from them and the occasional photo of Archie would be better received. The Cambridges seem to have got it right with their children.

Oopsminty Sun 04-Oct-20 11:46:05

Then we have William and his wife who have taken a break from complaining bitterly at every opportunity about their children’s privacy being invaded

They don't complain a great deal!

Sparklefizz Sun 04-Oct-20 12:02:44

Then we have William and his wife who have taken a break from complaining bitterly at every opportunity about their children’s privacy being invaded

Have they ever complained Kleberty2 ? I have never heard of it.

Anniebach I find ‘Camilla had a racy past’ amusing . The 60’s and she wasn’t a virgin.

I think it was the fact that it was an obvious racy past and that she was trying to make Parker Bowles jealous by seeing Charles.