Trump taken to hospital

Actually suziewoozie I think Gransnet is right to leave the posts in this case. At least I and others can read them and make up our own minds. I dislike it when posts are removed and there's a kind of implication of what's been said.

For what it's worth I think your initial posts where perfectly clear.

When you have a world leader who shouts, and by gum does he shout “Fake News” at anything and everything that is remotely anti him or anti his leadership Can you not all understand that with the extremely meaningful timing, people are going to follow his lead and shout “Fake news“
If the man has it I m certainly not glorying in his bad health no indeed I m not but I m also not crying into my cornflakes

You reap what you sow in life and if you go around with the arrogance and hardness in your heart to humanity and environment that he shows on a daily basis, his disregard for everyone who isn’t a crony, his lies, his jeering at people, his utter incompetence then you can hardly expect soft thoughtful, caring, thoughts in return

@Heathcliff23 I hope you have a speedy recovery.

I don’t believe Trump actually has the virus. It’s too convenient. He is desperate to win the election and this may be the only way he felt he could do it without more debate (that he is terrible at). He will recover, he won’t look any thinner or sick in any way. If I am wrong, well then I will apologise profusely. And possibly start believing in karma.

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flump I could almost be persuaded to pray for that ?

Sorry to hear you have been so ill Heathcliff I hope you make a complete recovery. Do you know how you got it?
As for Trump mastermiding this. No chance. They are all too stupid.
He will probably recover and be back bad mouthing Biden and the Chinese before we know it.

Anyone who puts themselves in the public eye will be judged by their words and actions. Trump has never behaved as a caring, considerate person who gives a damn about anyone other than himself. His rants, putdowns and nasty comments have brought him to a place where many people couldn't care less if he lives or dies.

However, my preferred scenario would be he eventually comes through this episode and it gives him a wake up call about the virus. He fails "bigly" to win the election and is taken through the courts re the various actions against him and suffers that way. Then we'll see how the "very stable genius" does.

From the Washington Post - they didn’t even tell the Biden camp about the positive test.

Would we even know about Trump’s diagnosis if it weren’t for that? Maybe not. What about those he has come in contact with in recent days? Would they know they were endangered? The indications aren’t good. Yamiche Alcindor, the PBS White House correspondent, reported Friday that there was “no contact from the Trump campaign or the White House to alert the Biden campaign of possible exposure.” The campaign learned of the situation from news reports.

I listen to Simon Marks on LBC - their US correspondent. Wow just wow - the WH wanted to hide his positive diagnosis but it was revealed only thanks to the press. Just think what this means - they didn’t want the people he’d been in contact with to know - wow just wow.

Like many of you I thought how convenient for DT to get the virus now. With (it’s reported) the election results going against him and after his disastrous confrontation with Joe it looks to me like a sympathy stunt. If he emerges from this ebullient, boastful and his usual arrogant self I truly will disbelieve he’s had it. If he is genuinely ill then I feel sorry for him. However, having been following Trumps progress over the last couple of years I am truly cynical about anything he says. In my opinion he is a bullying, dangerous liar. Please America vote him out.

Gigi7

As an American, I take offense to all the negative comments. When Boris was in the hospital, we prayed for your leader on a daily basis. We ask that you would put aside such vicious comments and pray for all who are impacted by this dreadful virus.

I take offence at your President- he’s told lie after lie after lie about the virus. His lies and cavalier behaviour has resulted in tens and tens of thousands of deaths. He damages the rest of us as we hear and see what he does and says and have sadly many people taken in by him. Pray for whom you want ( I don’t care as I’m am atheist) but don’t expect me to care about your President whose influence on my country and my world is evil and unforgivable.

Should be rarely.

Gigi7, I ready come on these political forums. There are some really sad people, very left wing, and as per usual, don't tolerate anyone with an opinion, however slightly different, to theirs.

As an American, I take offense to all the negative comments. When Boris was in the hospital, we prayed for your leader on a daily basis. We ask that you would put aside such vicious comments and pray for all who are impacted by this dreadful virus.

What a disgrace this site is. Just hope none of you get it.

I must be dim or being good to myself, naïve, as it didn't cross my mind that as he is trailing in the election statistics, he or more likely, his team, could engineer a stunt such as this (if indeed true).

We will probably never know until one of his team sells their story in an biography in the years to come.

Heathcliff, wishing you a speedy recovery.

FLOTUS was equally irresponsible - she cannot have given any thought at all to her son as she floated around maskless.

Sorry, The First Lady!

I hope The Fall First Lady recovers quickly.

ThanksNan I’d add however that the media were quoting information given by No 10/ various cabinet ministers. Gwyneth appears to have disappeared but her Humpty Dumpty posts are still here.

Medical matters, and details about illness and so forth should be kept to a minimum. He may be President but nobody needs a blow by blow account of his state of health and treatment. I worked in a large organisation where a newsletter went around weekly, and the person in charge found it necessary to state why people were off sick, and in one instance details of some rather personal surgery that one colleague had undergone. Unbelievable - she would be sued now I expect!

Susiewoozie you said what I feel about DT. As for Boris, we have been through this all before and there are some of us, me included, who didn't believe he was ill as was made out.

I think Gwyneth, that they meant the PRESS and TV people and/or the politicians press representatives had lied- NOT the NHS workers!

The fact that so many ( here and elsewhere) think it may be fake news just shows how far Trump’s serial lying about everything has shaped this awful ‘new world order’.

The theory I've seen is that he realised the debate was a disaster and is faking an infection to dodge the next one. He'll make a 'miraculous' recovery and credit it to hydroxychloroquine in which he has shares.