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Scrap the Sovereign Grant

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Grany Wed 21-Oct-20 12:00:41

Hi Grans Netters

Would you consider the monarchy having a annual budget costed rather than a Sovereign Grant which always goes up never down and isn't based on need? If you are then you can sign this petition and share it if you like on social media.

The Sovereign Grant has gone up by 60% since it was introduced in 2012 - from £31m to £49.4m last year (excluding costs of renovating Buckingham Palace, which pushes the cost over £80m).

Grany Wed 21-Oct-20 20:29:25

But they all have to have round the clock security Annie costing £100 million paid for by the metropolitan police.

Anniebach Wed 21-Oct-20 20:50:44

And get shot of the Queen these buildings wouldn’t need security ? Turn Windsor Castle into flats ?

lemongrove Wed 21-Oct-20 20:58:08

No, not signing thanks.
Doesn’t matter if it’s called an annual budget, they would need the same amount of money for security, maintenance and staff etc.
We either have a funded monarchy or we don’t.

Grandma70s Wed 21-Oct-20 21:03:08

I’m not signing either.

Grany Wed 21-Oct-20 21:05:00

Royals are spending over £345m a year on themselves. We could spend that on school meals.

Anniebach Wed 21-Oct-20 21:18:57

Grany what do you want to happen to the historic buildings?

Repairs to these buildings would still have to be paid for, or do
you want them pulled down ?

Grany Wed 21-Oct-20 21:25:38

They could be open to the public become tourist attractions and bring in a lot more revenue No not pulled down this is our history people should be able to see them.

Anniebach Wed 21-Oct-20 21:30:47

They are open to the public , have you not said the royals don’t bring in tourists ?

The buildings would still round the clock security

quizqueen Wed 21-Oct-20 21:31:01

I think when the Queen dies, the royal family will be pared down to consist of Charles and William's descendants only. Likewise when William is King, Charlotte and Louis will be phased out so the monarchy will become cheaper over the years.

I also think Charles won't want to live in Buckingham Palace so that could be opened up to the public full time, except for the odd State visit. They need to tell all the Dukes, Edward and the Yorks to move out into smaller houses and pay for them themselves. There's also Clarence House and Kensington Palace- they need to pay for themselves rather than housing hangers on.

They could also cut down on their holiday homes or open them to the public for the 50 weeks or so they are not there. I do agree that they cost too much but I also think they give the UK some kudos.

grannyrebel7 Wed 21-Oct-20 21:32:59

Definitely not!

Anniebach Wed 21-Oct-20 21:44:01

Edward owns his house as does Anne,

Is Charles a hanger on ? I thought he was heir to the throne,

Why should they get rid of their own property ? Sandringham
and Balmoral are privately owned .

GrannyGravy13 Wed 21-Oct-20 21:48:38

Slimmed down monarchy. Never a republican UK.

Not all residencies are publicly owned.

Gwyneth Wed 21-Oct-20 22:29:58

Not signing

Oopsminty Wed 21-Oct-20 22:34:00

No, I won't be signing

Doesn't appear to be gaining much traction either.

I think most people are happy enough with the status quo

MaizieD Wed 21-Oct-20 23:40:20

PC gets £20 million from the Duchy which should go to treasury. They pay no corporation tax or capital gains tax on that though it's run like a billion pound corporation giving them an unfair advantage The Queen gets a similar amount from the Duchy of Lancaster So all in all they are all doing extremely well out of the tax payer.

I think this is possibly not accurate

Check out the section on taxation

I won't be signing.

MaizieD Wed 21-Oct-20 23:41:18

And the tax payer doesn't fund anything.. but you know my peculiar views on this...

Flowershop Thu 22-Oct-20 00:00:48

Yes, definitely scrap the Sovereign Grant. Return to the system of the Crown receiving the income from the Crown Estate. It's about £304 million. The Crown Estate is valued at £12 billion. Just give it all back to HMQ and let her decide what to do with her own inherited property. I'm sure that taxpayers will be completely willing to make up the shortfall to the Treasury. Great idea.

Hetty58 Thu 22-Oct-20 00:00:59

Grany, signed, I'm sure they can manage on less!

paddyanne Thu 22-Oct-20 00:19:46

signed,Ill sign to get rid of them altogether any time I'm asked.Waste of public money ,parasites one and all.YESI do know what a parasite is and the description suit them to a T

paddyanne Thu 22-Oct-20 00:22:56

The crown estates were handed over in payment of debts,,,,,they were to be allowed an income from them.Shame other folk can have a wee arrangement like that....vile entitled parasites

Grany Thu 22-Oct-20 06:26:25

I agree with you Paddyanne They are parasites and very entitled.

They don't pay inheritance tax they have accumulated lots of wealth over many years.
Queen has 10 million in off shore tax havens

Their wills are sealed What have they got to hide

Grany Thu 22-Oct-20 07:54:51

As well as Sovereign Grant P Phillip gets £400,000

Hetty58 Thu 22-Oct-20 07:59:52

We just can't afford them atm. Give all the kids free school meals instead.

Davidhs Thu 22-Oct-20 08:09:02

Having a Royal family is part of the UKs appeal to visitors and in tourism alone repays its cost. Most of that cost is salaries of security and other workers to enable the engagements to take place.
Having said that, the Royals that do not do public duty should pay their own way. Although Charles is not my favorite Royal he runs the Duchy of Cornwall well, it does make a profit but that profit is used to improve the properties, not for personal extravagance.

Grany Thu 22-Oct-20 08:32:26

RF is good for tourism Davidhs
This claim is untrue and irrelevant. Even VisitBritain, our national tourist agency, can't find any evidence for it.

Chester Zoo, Stonehenge and the Roman Baths are all more successful tourist attractions than Windsor Castle, which is the only occupied royal residence to attract visitors in large numbers. If Windsor Castle was included in the Association of Leading Visitor Attractions (ALVA) list of top attractions it would come in at number 18.

However, the Sovereign Grant is just one part of the total cost of the monarchy. The royal family's security bill is picked up by the metropolitan police, for example, while the costs of royal visits are borne by local councils.

Meanwhile, income from the Duchy of Lancaster and the Duchy of Cornwall – despite belonging to the nation - goes directly to the Queen and Prince Charles respectively, depriving the treasury of tens of millions of pounds every year.