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Johnny Depp loses his libel trial against the Sun

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Iam64 Mon 02-Nov-20 13:19:07

Johnny Depp denied an article in the Sun alleging he was 'a wife beater'. There was a lengthy trial during which the Judge heard evidence from Mr Depp and his former wife, Amber Heard.

The Judge found that the article was substantially true. He concluded that 12 of 14 incidents alleged in the article actually happened.

The case didn't paint either of this couple in a positive light. Nonetheless, I am pleased that Mr Depp has been found by an independent Judge, who heard extensive evidence, to have been a 'wife beater' during his relationship with Amber Rudd. Women suffer violence of the type found to have been experienced by Amber Rudd, all too often. Men deny, minimise, accuse the women of being mentally ill, of exaggerating or of making it up.


OP edited by GNHQ to change the name for accuracy

Auntieflo Mon 02-Nov-20 13:37:48

Amber Rudd??
Perhaps Amber Heard though.

Smileless2012 Mon 02-Nov-20 13:40:34

I'm pleased too. As if knocking her about wasn't enough he insisted on taking the Sun to court and in so doing portrayed her as liar.

What an idiot.

suziewoozie Mon 02-Nov-20 14:16:42

They and the life style that was revealed during the trial was horrible. I also found it appalling that court time was available for this lengthy case when our CJS is absolutely falling apart and victims/accused being denied justice now for literally years for want of court rooms.

Jane10 Mon 02-Nov-20 14:24:12

I read in the Robert Lacey book on the two princes that meghan's PR company's policy is always to sue. Even if the result is not in their favour everyone will have been able to hear the whole story. No such thing as bad publicity etc.
Johnny Depp uses the same company...

Oopsminty Mon 02-Nov-20 14:29:29

I think this is pretty bad publicity for Mr Depp

The pair of them seemed to lead a rather disruptive lifestyle

She admitted to hitting him as well

I think she thumped a previous girlfriend as well

Jane10 Mon 02-Nov-20 16:02:46

They both sounded awful but I remember Depp getting a lot of support from fans. I'd never heard of Amber thingy before. Its all just business.

NotSpaghetti Mon 02-Nov-20 16:14:45

Isn't he involved with Disney?
I think they will be a bit wary now.
Also, my daughter says there's a similar court case coming up in America.

Deedaa Mon 02-Nov-20 17:09:19

On the other hand there seems to have been no violence in his relationship with Vanessa Paradis.

Summerlove Mon 02-Nov-20 18:08:09


On the other hand there seems to have been no violence in his relationship with Vanessa Paradis.

Someone who can be abusive isn’t always abusive with all partners, or all the time with the partners they are abusive to.

It can be equally true that he was not abusive to Vanessa and that he was abusive to Amber

Iam64 Mon 02-Nov-20 18:27:59

Apologies for writing Amber Rudd (I'll ask GNHQ if they can change it)

Deeda, it doesn't matter if there was no violence in his relationship with Vanessa Paradis. He was horribly abusive to Amber Heard, for a long time. She wasn't in trial here. He chose to sue The Sun and he lost.

Jane 10, what do you mean when you say "its all just business'.

He is talking about appealing this Judgement. Another classic example of controlling, abusive behaviour.

Oopsminty Mon 02-Nov-20 18:45:37

They were both horribly abusive to each other.

Summerlove Mon 02-Nov-20 18:46:31

But she wasn’t on trial

Even though they made it look as though she was

Iam64 Mon 02-Nov-20 18:48:21

Exactly Summerlove. He denied being a wife beater as the Sun alleged. The Judge listened to endless evidence and decided he was, a wife beater. She is the victim here, not him. Amazing that so many find that difficult to believe

Sparkling Mon 02-Nov-20 18:55:53

I found this case disturbing to say the least. They are as bad as each other and it’s about money, I don’t see why any woman should be paid for being married for such a very short time, it was never happy, they both have histories. She can earn her own living.

Ilovecheese Mon 02-Nov-20 19:20:32

Sparkling are you talking about the same court case? I thought Johnny Dep was sueing a newspaper.

Iam64 Mon 02-Nov-20 19:39:06

Sparkling. It was a civil case. It has nothing to do with Amber Heard being "paid for being married for such a very short time".

Johnny Depp brought this case. He sued The Sun newspaper after they called him a wife beater , something he denied. Amber Heard was called as a Witness. She had nothing to gain financially and a lot to lose personally. Your comment is one of many that suggests people see her "as bad as him".

Johnny Depp lost his case against the Sun. The Judge found. that 12 of the 14 incidents the Sun used in support of its report to be substantially true.

Jane10 Mon 02-Nov-20 20:15:53

Iam64- I meant that this PR company encourages clients to sue as even bad publicity is better than no publicity. It stinks of course.

Iam64 Mon 02-Nov-20 21:11:51

Thanks Jane10, that clarifies it.
The Sun's senior lawyer was on the tv and radio news this evening. His view is the Judgement is sound. That Depp may get leave to appeal but the Judge concerned is known to be both cautious and skilful. The level of publicity surrounding the trial and the likelihood of Depp appealing will have been something the Judge is well aware of.

Sparkling Mon 02-Nov-20 21:45:58

I am not sticking up for Depp, I think him weird, just questioning the one sided way of looking at this if they were both abusive to each other.

Summerlove Mon 02-Nov-20 21:58:30

But her abusiveness shouldn’t even be part of this

It wasn’t A divorce hearing, or a criminal case.

It was a civil case. Against a newspaper. Whether or not she abused him should have had nothing to do with it.

She was his victim, and has now been tried in the court of public opinion. Just another way for him to abuse her

Iam64 Tue 03-Nov-20 08:28:13

I don't see the conclusion of this court hearing as a 'one sided way of looking at this'. The court was asked to consider specific allegations that Depp abused Amber Heard. The conclusion was that yes, he did.
Ask any woman who was subjected to several years of horrific abuse, whether they ever lost their control and shouted or e hit back. Victims have feelings too, they may feel terror, which Amber Heard says she did. She feared for her life on one occasion. Being in an abusive relationship with someone you have, and maybe still do, love will affect your behaviour.

Summerlove is right, she was his victim and has been tied in the court of public opinion. It is another way for him to abuse and humiliate her.

Smileless2012 Tue 03-Nov-20 11:54:24

It is another way for him to abuse and humiliate her exactly Iam and thank goodness that the person who has ultimately been humiliated is him.

Oopsminty Tue 03-Nov-20 12:26:21

Don't forget that Amber herself was charged and arrested in 2009 for striking a girlfriend.

Nobody is disputing that Depp hit Heard

But Heard hit Depp as well

Depp lost a case against the Sun.

Yes, he can be classed a wife absuer

But you can't just ignore all the evidence that was heard during this case

Iam64 Tue 03-Nov-20 12:34:17

I agree Oopsminty , remember though that Amber Heard wasn't prosecuted or found guilty of assault. This case was about Depp denying the information the Sun printed, which the Judge has now concluded was correct, in calling him a wife beater. To deny the information in the Sun suggests Depp denied hitting Amber Heard. He certainly denied every one of the 12 incidents the Court found to have happened.

It's classic abuser behaviour, to accuse the woman of being equally violent, mentally ill, unstable etc etc. It also isn't unusual for people under attack to fight back.