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Whitewavemark2 Fri 06-Nov-20 08:17:35

There are rumours that the U.K. in wavering in its negotiations.

At long last reality is setting in.

A couple of reasons.

It is likely that Trump, who has supported Brexit and promised a “great deal” ?has been defeated. Johnson has lost his only foreign supporter.

Looking at the economic forecast it is grim. Our figures are the worst in the western world at the moment and will take another huge hit if Johnson commits hari kari and goes for No deal.

Petera Thu 03-Dec-20 15:28:26

Urmstongran

I think our sovereign nation will prove that small can be nimble. Decisions don’t have to be ratified 27 times and translated into umpteen languages first.

As Professor Van Tam said this morning he’s very proud of the way we can do things in the UK.
❤️

The UK is still under the remit of the European Medicines Agency until the end of transition. The EMA rules allow all member states to ratify on their own in emergencies such as this; there's no issue of 27 ratifications.

The fact that other nations have chosen not do it is simply their decision and nothing to do with the EU and the EMA.

I for one am proud that we didn't decide to block this vaccine because it was developed by Turkish immigrants in German company and produced in Belgium.

Let's hope it doesn't overheat in the Channel Tunnel queues in January.

Pantglas2 Thu 03-Dec-20 15:31:35

Only the dopey ones Varian! Most expats I know were aware that the rules already state that its 90 days in 183 - nothing new here!

biba70 Thu 03-Dec-20 15:50:03

Some of them Varian, have just come back after spending a lot more in the EU ;)

And now Gavin Williamson boasts that at last WW2 will be allowed to be studied in UK schools, now the EU can't forbid it. My kids certainly did study WW2, so did all the kids in all the schools I taught. And my grandchildren recently too- big project last year on WW2 by grandson. I am sure even he did ... not that long ago sad

Urmstongran Thu 03-Dec-20 15:55:47

Funny how those who extol the virtues of the EU are just presenting the facts but when other challenge the EU on here we are accused of ‘point scoring’‼️

biba70 Thu 03-Dec-20 15:57:41

Which facts stated above in this thread are, in your opinion- not facts? Please.

MayBee70 Thu 03-Dec-20 16:13:30

biba70

Some of them Varian, have just come back after spending a lot more in the EU ;)

And now Gavin Williamson boasts that at last WW2 will be allowed to be studied in UK schools, now the EU can't forbid it. My kids certainly did study WW2, so did all the kids in all the schools I taught. And my grandchildren recently too- big project last year on WW2 by grandson. I am sure even he did ... not that long ago sad

Crikey: didn’t realise that DD has been teaching it illegally for the past 15 years....I’d better tell her....

Whitewavemark2 Thu 03-Dec-20 16:17:58

And to think Williamson is the Education Minister????.

My grandsons interviewed their great grandmother for their WW11 project.

Urmstongran Thu 03-Dec-20 17:11:22

More GOOD NEWS regarding Brexit:

The Government plans to ban the export of live animals for slaughter and fattening, as it said leaving the EU allows the UK to enact rules to prevent unnecessary suffering of animals during excessively long journeys.

The RSPCA said it “would be a landmark achievement for animal welfare”, while Compassion in World Farming said the “unambiguous proposal” was very welcome.

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Firecracker123 Thu 03-Dec-20 17:43:44

Yes great news Urmstongran another plus from Brexit.

Lucretzia Thu 03-Dec-20 17:52:25

Marvellous news, Urmstongran

www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/dec/03/uk-to-become-first-country-in-europe-to-ban-live-animal-exports

GrannyGravy13 Thu 03-Dec-20 17:55:12

Brilliant news Urmstongran

biba70 Thu 03-Dec-20 18:04:07

Hurrah indeed- the first ever good news about Brexit.

Urmstongran Thu 03-Dec-20 18:04:22

Both sides playing the end game now.
Won’t be long.
I’m so glad we have the amazing David Frost as our chief negotiator - the details man the details men go to apparently.
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varian Thu 03-Dec-20 18:21:49

I really hope that your faith in Frost is vindicated Ug

But I do wonder what you will say if we end up with no-deal.

MaizieD Thu 03-Dec-20 18:28:05

And now Gavin Williamson boasts that at last WW2 will be allowed to be studied in UK schools, now the EU can't forbid it.

Blimey! Late to this one. Did he really say that biba? Have you a link?

If he did it's completely untrue...shock

Whitewavemark2 Thu 03-Dec-20 18:44:42

varian

I really hope that your faith in Frost is vindicated Ug

But I do wonder what you will say if we end up with no-deal.

The same as ug said when Trump lost.

Nothing?

David0205 Thu 03-Dec-20 19:16:45

Urmstongran

More GOOD NEWS regarding Brexit:

The Government plans to ban the export of live animals for slaughter and fattening, as it said leaving the EU allows the UK to enact rules to prevent unnecessary suffering of animals during excessively long journeys.

The RSPCA said it “would be a landmark achievement for animal welfare”, while Compassion in World Farming said the “unambiguous proposal” was very welcome.

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LOL

There has been no live export from the UK for some years, but there has been a good trade in live export from Ireland, so to have any effect there will have to be a ban on export to NI as well.
I’ve never understood the live export, it’s far cheaper it export meat

Urmstongran Thu 03-Dec-20 19:24:47

Perhaps the RSPCA is being silly then.

David0205 Thu 03-Dec-20 19:38:39

Local authorities stopped it 3 yrs? ago the cost of policing protesters was massive. Sometimes activists do get changes.

GillT57 Thu 03-Dec-20 19:47:53

And now Gavin Williamson boasts that at last WW2 will be allowed to be studied in UK schools, now the EU can't forbid it. My kids certainly did study WW2, so did all the kids in all the schools I taught. And my grandchildren recently too- big project last year on WW2 by grandson. I am sure even he did ... not that long ago That silly boy pretending to be a grown up by wearing his Dad's suit you mean? What an absolute idiot he is, and yet many people believe him. My adult children, in their early 20s, both studied WW2.

GillT57 Thu 03-Dec-20 19:51:34

Live animal exports are horrific, and if leaving EU does stop them then I will be very pleased. But, please don't pretend that this was the reason for voting Brexit for the majority of leavers. I don't remember Farage lecturing the electorate about the immoral practice, but then again I did always turn off the tv when he was on.

Lucretzia Thu 03-Dec-20 19:51:39

David0205

Not sure what you're lolling about.

From the Guardian article mentioned above

An estimated 6,400 animals were sent to Europe for slaughter in 2018, according to Defra. Many of those left through the port of Ramsgate in Kent

petra Thu 03-Dec-20 19:53:01

biba70
I don't know if he said that or not.
What he has said is ^Teaching black history will not be a choice, it will be mandatory'
Choosing to share the good bits isn't part of your agenda, is it?

Urmstongran Thu 03-Dec-20 20:17:18

But, please don't pretend that this was the reason for voting Brexit for the majority of leaver

I never inferred it was Gill57.

I was just sharing some more GOOD NEWS about Brexit.
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Urmstongran Thu 03-Dec-20 20:31:11

Seems the EU have just brought in something at the 11th hour and talks have stalled ....

Nail biting stuff.

Hold your nerve Lord Frost.