All eyes now turn to Brexit.

Well said Whitewavemark2 thanks for the clarification.

Curlywhirly

Well said Whitewavemark2 thanks for the clarification.

?the moral is -

Never ever trust a Tory Minister. Always check

JenniferEccles

It sounds as if we owe Boris a huge round of applause for ensuring that we are at least a month ahead of other European countries.

He hinted at something during his press conference earlier, following a question from a journalist, but was careful to appear modest.

Well done PM.

“ We have been able to authorize the supply of this vaccine using provisions under European law, which exist until the 1st of January.
So I hope that clarifies the point about the European relationship."

Dr June Raine CEO UK MHRA.”

The UK has acted independently to secure a contract with Pfizer for the vaccine.

The EU are still prevaricating and are not meeting until the end of December.

I couldn’t give a flying fig whether it has been done under EU law or UK law!!! I am just extremely pleased that the long and logistically challenged roll-out of the vaccination program can begin next week.

Exactly GG13 !

The fact remains, as we have learned, that we will be the first European country to start our vaccination programme, getting off to a flying start next week.

Meanwhile EU countries have at least another month to wait.

For goodness sake put politics aside for once and rejoice that fact.

It’s probably a good move to get in first with orders before 1st Jan, we are still in the free market and there are no barriers to stop the deal. A very good strategic move.
After that there just might be an EU preference bias, in a few weeks other vaccines will be available including our own Oxford vaccine.

“ For goodness sake put politics aside for once and rejoice that fact.”

Covid is VERY political

David0205

“ For goodness sake put politics aside for once and rejoice that fact.”

Covid is VERY political

As the full economic impact of Covid-19 becomes apparent in the new year the handling of the Coronavirus crisis will make it even more political.

JenniferEccles 'For goodness sake put politics aside for once and rejoice that fact.'

yes, such a shame Hancock, Dorries and Rees-Mogg jumped on the opportunity to make this political - in such a way that it bit them back hard as they were shown to lie, again- for their own political ends.

You can't blame the Germans and the EU for being annoyed- at this particular point in time- with all the Brexit lies and mess and International Law Breaking in the background- and perhaps the reason the Continental Press, and friends and neighbours here- say, ah well- if they want to be the guinea-pigs. let them. Politicising this by the Government and the 3 above in particular, was NOT wise in the circumstances.

GrannyGravy13

The UK has acted independently to secure a contract with Pfizer for the vaccine.

The EU are still prevaricating and are not meeting until the end of December.

I couldn’t give a flying fig whether it has been done under EU law or UK law!!! I am just extremely pleased that the long and logistically challenged roll-out of the vaccination program can begin next week.

We all are.

BUT we don’t like lies do we?

And then Gavin Willimson - it's like a Kindergarten out there- and at the worst possible moment in negotiations- what stupid comments

''The UK has become the first country in the world to approve the coronavirus vaccine “because we’re a much better country,” according to the Education Secretary.

Gavin Williamson was asked by LBC news whether Brexit helped the UK secure the Covid-19 vaccine first, a claim denied by the UK’s own medicines regulator, the MHRA.

“Well, I just reckon we’ve got the very best people in this country and we’ve obviously got the best medical regulators,” he said.

“Much better than the French have, much better than the Belgians have, much better than the Americans have.

“That doesn’t surprise me at all because we’re a much better country than every single one of them, aren’t we?”

So don't accuse us of politicising !

JenniferEccles

Exactly GG13 !

The fact remains, as we have learned, that we will be the first European country to start our vaccination programme, getting off to a flying start next week.

Meanwhile EU countries have at least another month to wait.

For goodness sake put politics aside for once and rejoice that fact.

Sorry I’d love to but it was a brexiteer on the vaccination thread who first mentioned it and then the “Boris played a blinder’ comment. Who was that I wonder ?

I wasn't surprised when I heard that it's thanks to Brexit that the UK will be the first to start the vaccination programme; anything to justify our departure, it seems.

We also had this from Alok Sharma: ”In years to come, we will remember this moment as the day the UK led humanity's charge against this disease”. Still the obsession with wanting to be world-beating. Jonathan Van-Tam, on the other hand, in a recent briefing recognized the international efforts behind the development of the vaccines.

I am full of admiration for all the scientists regardless of nationality and I am truly grateful that they have given us a defense against the virus. It does show us what we can achieve when we work together.

I think our sovereign nation will prove that small can be nimble. Decisions don’t have to be ratified 27 times and translated into umpteen languages first.

As Professor Van Tam said this morning he’s very proud of the way we can do things in the UK.
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Urmstongran

I think our sovereign nation will prove that small can be nimble. Decisions don’t have to be ratified 27 times and translated into umpteen languages first.

As Professor Van Tam said this morning he’s very proud of the way we can do things in the UK.
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Thank you LauraNorder for pointing out to MaizieD that I did indeed ‘cut & paste’ an article. I did attribute it correctly. My iPad played up last night for which I apologised for its bitty presentation.

Not long now till we Brexit.
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09:59biba70You can't blame the Germans and the EU for being annoyed- at this particular point in time- with all the Brexit lies and mess and International Law Breaking in the background- and perhaps the reason the Continental Press, and friends and neighbours here- say, ah well- if they want to be the guinea-pigs. let them. Politicising this by the Government and the 3 above in particular, was NOT wise in the circumstances.



Ha ha ha sounds like sore grapes to me. How petty.

Its about time now without the shackles of the EU we can blow our own trumpet. ??????

Urmstongran

Thank you LauraNorder for pointing out to MaizieD that I did indeed ‘cut & paste’ an article. I did attribute it correctly. My iPad played up last night for which I apologised for its bitty presentation.

Not long now till we Brexit.
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I knew you'd cut and pasted it, Ug. I did read some of it to see if you'd acknowledged its source (because it's not something you usually do). So great c & P skills, Ug. Congratulations.

Its about time now without the shackles of the EU we can blow our own trumpet

And what trumpet might that be, firecracker? That we hopped in and bought up a few thousand doses of vaccine that's being produced in the EU? What's so praiseworthy about that?

Any guff about being able to approve it so fast because of Brexit is actually LIES, so no cause for jingoism there...

I note that the vaccine being developed in the UK isn't ready yet...

Ok I give up.
Some of you are determined to see the negative side of everything.

Meanwhile I am sure there are many many others of us who are rejoicing in the news of the last couple of days.

I wonder if we will have news of the Oxford vaccine next week?
There is talk about that also being available before Christmas. I suspect that’s the one the majority of us will have.

JE. We absolutely do rejoice in the news!
Just don’t believe it’s anything to do with Brexit or Boris that’s all.

Revealing MaizieD how you commented upon my C&P skills ... but not the revelations within the article itself about splits & reasons for delays within the EU.

Urmstongran

Revealing MaizieD how you commented upon my C&P skills ... but not the revelations within the article itself about splits & reasons for delays within the EU.

And why should I have anything to say about something you have posted on a point scoring mission?

I'm not the one who thinks that the EU is an evil monstrosity which blights the lives of all who come into contact with it. As there are 27 countries, all sovereign and all with their own interests to consider it is not at all surprising that somethings may be subject to delay before a consensus is reached.

Furious British expats blast EU's new post-Brexit travel rules which will ban them from spending more than three months at a time at their holiday home from January

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9000815/Furious-British-expats-blast-EUs-new-post-Brexit-travel-rules.html

I wonder just how many of these "furious British expats" were persuaded to vote Leave by the Mailonline?