Biden is President elect

What you actually mean WW is that it’s a post you don’t like.
Nevertheless, it happens to be true.
I sincerely hope that Joe Biden doesn’t have an ancestral ‘down’ on us because of his Irish Catholic roots.

lemongrove

Maybe not a silly remark Lucca as there are many people in the US with Irish ancestors going back a long way who supported the IRA with donations ( not suggesting Biden did btw).If Americans have Catholic ‘roots’ then dislike of the UK
( England in particular, but many can’t distinguish the difference) is definitely there in many cases, especially in the older generation.

That is a post that is the sort of thing that hopefully will now disappear with the demise of Trump.

With respect ...?. I referred to the language used. “Doesn’t like”. Does that mean finds the people unpleasant ? The geographical features unappealing? The food unpalatable ?

Maybe not a silly remark Lucca as there are many people in the US with Irish ancestors going back a long way who supported the IRA with donations ( not suggesting Biden did btw).If Americans have Catholic ‘roots’ then dislike of the UK
( England in particular, but many can’t distinguish the difference) is definitely there in many cases, especially in the older generation.

CarrieAnn

Unfortunately Biden doesn't like the U.K.My American penfriend will be distraught, she's a real Trump fan, can't imagine why.

What on earth does that mean “doesn’t like the UK”? I’ve read that Biden was not in favour of Brexit and in particular is opposed to an Irish hard border but that does not mean he does not t like the UK. Sorry to be blunt but what a silly remark.

CraftyGranny

Sorry folks but I fully agree with Pilgrim. This is far from over. I suggest you go searching the internet to find out what has really been going on.
Mind you, they have had postal ballots from 110 years old up to 170 years old for Biden. Hmm
I am not a particular fan of Trump as a person, but as a President he did get things he promised done.

It is totally delusional to continue with this argument.

Every country except China and Russia have recognised Biden. China won’t be long, given Bidens stated policy so we will left with just Russia.

Sorry folks but I fully agree with Pilgrim. This is far from over. I suggest you go searching the internet to find out what has really been going on.
Mind you, they have had postal ballots from 110 years old up to 170 years old for Biden. Hmm
I am not a particular fan of Trump as a person, but as a President he did get things he promised done.

Well said sw!

So the GOP attracts a diverse range of supporters. What does that prove? The same happens here with the Tories - it's hardly new.

The US was once a shining example to the world. It has been sad to watch the way its current President has deliberately sowed the seeds of division and made it so disunited.

I was horrified to hear that Governors decide the boundaries of voting districts in their states so there is gerrymandering on a vast scale as politicians draw the boundaries to improve their electoral chances. At least an independent body deals with that in the UK.

Before anyone runs away with the idea that I think everything about the British electoral system and democracy is honky dory, I don't. But that would have to be the subject of another thread.

CarrieAnn

Unfortunately Biden doesn't like the U.K.My American penfriend will be distraught, she's a real Trump fan, can't imagine why.

Why should he like us? That’s not his job is it?

Unfortunately Biden doesn't like the U.K.My American penfriend will be distraught, she's a real Trump fan, can't imagine why.

Ah yes the wonderful Trump - who mocked a disabled journalist, who mocked a Gold Star family, who called war hero McCain a loser for being a POW whilst Trump dodged the draft 5 times. Trump who boasts of sexually assaulting women, who wants to take away women’s bodily autonomy and deny them health care and contraception. Trump who ordered babies and children to be ripped from their mothers arms at the border ( and 500 of which children have still not been reunited). And if you want to talk about voter fraud,perhaps you’d like to explain the decades of voter suppression especially in the South. I grew up observing little black children bring spat at during the desegregation of the schools, I read about little black children bring burned alive in a church by your wonderful KKK and fine young white men from the North being murdered whilst they tried to register black voters. And it’s a fact that voter suppression continues - quite frankly if the USA is a democracy, you’re welcome to it.

Blimey this thread is attracting some very weird posts

You probably didn't view the RNC and the wide range of people, classes, ages and ethnicities who support our President and the freedoms this country has long stood for. You seem unaware of the real happenings in the USA over the past 4 yrs., how Pres. Trump cut taxes, brought back overseas jobs to American companies and individuals, created vast opportunities for blacks (including boosting their small businesses), how he truly loves this country. (He received a larger 2020 vote among minorities -- i.e. blacks, Latinos -- than any U.S. President in history.) The other party and many of our career politicians seek their own continuing power and financial security, even as they seek implementation of measures to bring our people to increasing dependency on the government (surrendering more and more of our everyday freedoms), which leads to socialism which leads to Communism which leads to everyone living in poverty. You are probably unaware of the underlying elements seeking to destroy the USA, its history and its culture. You don't live here, and it may be that you don't understand that this country is the last great hope for freedom in the world. Mr. Biden has not yet been certified as winner. Notwithstanding his corrupt dealings with China, Mr. Biden is unwell, and if he were put in office, it would be temporary. The VP candidate, who is far more radical than Mr. Biden (and hateful toward the USA), and who couldn't win her party's presidential nomination, would be next in line. There is no reason for President Trump to be put in prison, but there are huge reasons for Mr. Biden to be there. Think of the free world leaders during WWII. Sometimes, toughness is what is required to combat enemies, and liars (which are found among many of the purveyors of media). Perhaps you need to broaden your reading, beyond the mainstream.

@Whitewavemark2. Not buying into anything, only stating what I’ve heard and read. Trump propaganda or not, it wouldn’t surprise me though. The world seems to have gone mad since lockdown so nothing surprises me any more.

The results are always announced before all the votes are counted. There was nothing different at all this year other than Trump wound everyone up by lying beforehand. In Pen, the election authorities when they realised that there was going to be an enormous increase in mail in votes because of the virus, asked for permission to start counting the mail in votes earlier rather than having to wait until after the in person votes had been counted. They were denied this request by the State Republicans.This allowed Trump to spread his lies and I’m one of those that thinks this was a deliberate act by the State Republicans to feed his lies and spread dissent.

I understand why Trump supporters are angry that the election victory was announced before all the votes have been counted but I can't understand why people believe that the election was rigged without having seen any evidence.

The only "evidence" so far seems to be that Trump says it was rigged.

I am really looking forward to him wasting money he hasn't got on lots of lawsuits that will fail.

As for the rumours that his daughter will stand as the Republican candidate next time, that may be his wish but it is not for him to decide. I hope it doesn't happen as it would be only him operating her in the background.

Trump must think he's like the Royal Family here and that his children are entitled to succeed him. She may look beautiful but what has she got between her ears?

varian

He might own several golf clubs, but apparently he isn't even a very good golfer.

Did you watch The Last Leg on Friday? They were discussing how he cheats at golf.

Thank goodness for that Trump would not have been a friend- he was always 'America First' but could see how he could screw us all and make lots of money out of us- and the NHS- and to sell his polluted and sick products to us.

i think we may find out that Joe Biden is not our friend as Donald Trump would have been

Great news, hopefully Biden will get America back on the right track. Trump is a sore loser. Glad to see the back of him. What an idiot!!!

Can't believe so many of you go on about his age, possible early dementia ( no sign of that in his heartfelt speech last night ) & his memory. I know/have met so many people half his age with a terrible memory ( mostly males, out of interest). Sometimes I think I'm on Musnet, not Gransnet. ☹️ I think Kamela Harris would make an excellent President if she had to take over, but I hear Ivanka is already relishing the possible prospect of another Trump in the White House. Meanwhile, before the elections, Melania made Trump raise the pre-nup if he wanted her to stay with him. I think the next few months are going to be very interesting, to say the least.

Whitewavemark2

He isn’t the only republican. Ask rose

Yes I know - I was being sarcastic

He might own several golf clubs, but apparently he isn't even a very good golfer.

He is graceless.

He isn’t the only republican. Ask rose