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Desperately keeping Cummings (sorry)

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GagaJo Thu 12-Nov-20 09:25:30

Fight with Carrie. One aide has left. Cummings threatening to walk out (let him go was the cry!). But still. Why is she interfering? They're bad enough without WAGS getting involved.

uk.yahoo.com/news/lee-cain-resigns-boris-johnsons-211237124.html

Davidhs Fri 13-Nov-20 09:56:54

Cummings is going, how on earth is BJ going to manage without ideas - or is he just going to let “experts” rule. Don’t write off Gove, Hancock and the rest, they are distancing themselves from the mess to come.

faringdon59 Fri 13-Nov-20 10:01:56

Why does the saying ' the hand that rocks the cradle' spring to mind after reading about Carrie having an input.
However, if the end result is Cummings leaving I will certainly pleased.

Ramblingrose22 Fri 13-Nov-20 10:28:02

I am so relieved Cummings is going. The boisterous Vote Leave "children" are no loss. They will have got what they wanted by the end of the year anyway - especially if there is a No Deal - although I think Cummings had plans to reform the civil service which may have had to take a back seat because of the pandemic.

I read that there are currently about 40 Special Advisers in No.10, so I am sure BJ will find a replacement soon! He'll have to because he has absolutely no ideas of his own. Perhaps this time he'll ensure that they allow his backbenchers access to him occasionally just to keep them sweet.

IMHO BJ has never been PM material. He's been doing what he did as Mayor of London - using teams of advisers and other politicians to do all the hard work and run everything and uses a skilled publicity team to publicise his "achievements" so that he takes all the credit.

This is why Allegra Stratton has been appointed - to hold new daily press briefings trumpeting how wonderful he is.

Callistemon Fri 13-Nov-20 10:35:19

vegansrock

Rats leaving the sinking ship comes to mind.

Having pulled out the bung.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 13-Nov-20 11:25:47

David Lammy

Like rats fleeing a sinking ship. Dominic Cummings has been one of the most malign influences on the British government in modern history. His legacy is one of bullying, deception, hypocrisy and hubris. The super-forecaster who ignored the pandemic. His damage is irreparable.

But never forget it was Johnson who employed him, Johnson oversaw and facilitated his influence. Johnson facilitated his deception and bullying.

The blame lies entirely at Johnson’s door.

travelsafar Fri 13-Nov-20 11:44:00

starbird I am with you on whether BJ will stay or go in the new year. Just do not see how he will cope without his advisors.

MayBee70 Fri 13-Nov-20 11:45:31

Good piece by Prof Chris Grey which refers to brexit and Cummings. ‘So, as brexit limps on, the unloved orphan of failing populism.....’

lemongrove Fri 13-Nov-20 11:52:04

Cummings always said he would leave late this year, but no doubt Lee Cain leaving has cemented it.Hopefully there are better special advisors out there.Am amazed that no newspapers are using the headline ‘Cummings Is Goings’?
From the Tony Blair years onwards the country has been more run by Downing St with the PM and advisors, T May almost lost that particular election by working with advisors and freezing out the Cabinet.

lemongrove Fri 13-Nov-20 11:58:59

Maybee it’s no good anyone quoting anti-Brexit thoughts from those who wanted to stay in the EU....it’s obvious they would say that.?
More people voted to leave than voted to remain, it was a promise that it would be implemented and it has been ( now!)
That ship has sailed ( hoping to prevent it) and everyone, including Prof Grey has to accept that.By the end of December all negotiations on a trade deal will be done and we can hopefully put all the divisive stuff behind us.

lemongrove Fri 13-Nov-20 12:02:09

trisher

Cummings is Going! (sorry) Do you suppose someone has offered him a good deal?

I have just read a few posts now and see we had the same idea
trisher on headlines?

Iam64 Fri 13-Nov-20 12:12:56

Gagajo I expect when you retire from teaching you will still care about it. I'm no Carrie Symonds fan, or a fan of anyone connected to this government but, she worked in politics. She married the PM and its impossible to believe they don't discuss politics at home. She's bound to have views and why wouldn't she share them with her current partner

vegansrock Fri 13-Nov-20 12:57:23

Carrie isn’t married to the PM as far as we know. She had an affair with him while he was still married and his wife was having cancer treatment.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 13-Nov-20 13:27:53

lemongrove

Cummings always said he would leave late this year, but no doubt Lee Cain leaving has cemented it.Hopefully there are better special advisors out there.Am amazed that no newspapers are using the headline ‘Cummings Is Goings’?
From the Tony Blair years onwards the country has been more run by Downing St with the PM and advisors, T May almost lost that particular election by working with advisors and freezing out the Cabinet.

No that is wrong what Cummings actually said was

“He didn't write he'd be leaving by Christmas.

He wrote he'd like to build the kind of team and operation that makes him "largely redundant" by Christmas.

Who looking at No. 10 right now thinks it's a well oiled machine ready to run itself”.?

Callistemon Fri 13-Nov-20 13:30:14

He wrote he'd like to build the kind of team and operation that makes him "largely redundant" by Christmas.

That sounds very worrying.
The country being run by a team of Cummings Clones.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 13-Nov-20 13:34:17

Callistemon

^He wrote he'd like to build the kind of team and operation that makes him "largely redundant" by Christmas.^

That sounds very worrying.
The country being run by a team of Cummings Clones.

Don’t worry it ain’t going to happen.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 13-Nov-20 17:20:47

Blimey he’s gone!

There must be huge bust ups going on.

tanith Fri 13-Nov-20 17:21:15

He’s gone good job too.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 13-Nov-20 17:26:40

I would imagine that the military, the MOD and intelligence services must be breathing huge sighs of relief as will the whole of the civil service.

Elegran Fri 13-Nov-20 17:26:44

Who will be next? This kind of dust-up doesn't stop at the principal characters.

biba70 Fri 13-Nov-20 17:27:24

WOW

B9exchange Fri 13-Nov-20 17:29:28

Has he really gone? Or was that just a media stunt via the front door, if he was really going to go, he could have taken everything out the back?

Whitewavemark2 Fri 13-Nov-20 17:32:46

B9exchange

Has he really gone? Or was that just a media stunt via the front door, if he was really going to go, he could have taken everything out the back?

That isn’t how the arrogant little s...t works though is it?

He’s left a government in absolute chaos as a time of peak crises.

Brexit is imminent with no deal yet agreed. Covid is a continual crises and there are other issues on the horizon, and we have a Prime minister who is clueless with clueless people around him.

Devorgilla Fri 13-Nov-20 17:34:12

My weekend suddenly looks a whole lot brighter. Never thought I'd see him leave, complete with cardboard box. Now, I wonder, what will happen next?

cupaffull Fri 13-Nov-20 17:42:12

He's gone... pathetic little creep! Thank God to Carrie if she's had a hand in it. He'll be reviled forever. What an awful man. Whoever could live with someone like that? To constantly have to make excuses for him as a partner.
Let's get someone with a sensible head into the post. We need the grownups to step up and pull together now.

Nannytopsy Fri 13-Nov-20 17:44:59

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