Who will be left in the Labour Party?

Labour lost

And that with the right wingers in LP office working against them. Those people should have been disciplined, but guess what? Starmer paid them off. No wonder the Unions don't want to give him money!

Hang on a minute. It isn’t as if Chris Williamson wasn’t swiftly moved out of the cabinet when he because, as a loose cannon, an embarrassment. So why was it ok for Corbyn to do that but not ok for Starmer to do so. I don’t understand why Labour stopped Labour supporters from voting Labour. My family still voted for Labour even though we never liked Corbyn. From what I heard (could be wrong) even Corbyn and McDonnell weren’t on speaking terms prior to the referendum either.

I 100% agree with trisher regarding Starmer's actions concerning Corbyn. The former leader was suspended from party membership over his reaction to the Equalities and Race Commission report. On investigation, Corbyn's membership was reinstated, but Starmer then removed the Parliamentary whip from Corbyn forcing him to sit in the House of Commons as an independent MP.

Therefore, having been chosen to launch the peace and Justice project and movement this week, Corbyn could do no other than to make the announcement as a member of Parliament that has no association with the Parliamentary Labour Party.

The launch of the Peace & Justice project has proven very popular with many on the left in Britain and could well have drawn numerous people back into the rapidly dwindling membership of the Labour Party, but Starmer's personal vindictive action against Corbyn has ensured that will not happen.

This is yet again another complete "own goal" by Starmer in his entirely inept and disastrous leadership of the party.

No one "undermined" Starmer in the launch of the project and movement as Starmer undermined himself by way of his previous unjust vendetta action against Corbyn. Simple as that.

Well, given that Starmer has totally demolished Johnson week after week at PMQT and the fact that Labour are ahead of the Conservatives for the first time in years I shall continue to support the Labour Party with him as leader. I often wonder if the left wing of the Labour Party have been infiltrated by the extreme right wing because they seem to be determined to be in opposition for perpetuity.

I thought the new Corbyn Project was an independent organisation. Are you, Retiredwell, now telling us it was sanctioned by the Party? How many people approximately have rejoined the Labour Party since it was announced?

Scrub that last post, Retiredwell. I see I misread your comment. It is an independent organisation. It will be interesting to see how it develops.

Devorgilla

I thought the new Corbyn Project was an independent organisation. Are you, Retiredwell, now telling us it was sanctioned by the Party? How many people approximately have rejoined the Labour Party since it was announced?

The new movement most certainly has not been sanctioned by the Labour Party as it is not any part of their policies. No doubt had Corbyn still been a Labour Party MP it could have been brought in as Labour policy with perhaps even Starmer launching it as such.

However, it has now been launched as an independent project with people being able to freely subscribe to the new movement.

By example, I am a member of the Unite Union and with that organisation backing the new movement, I will be happy for a percentage of my membership subscription and political levy to go towards the new project.

Apologies Devorgilla I must have been typing my post when you placed yours on the thread.

No problem, Retiredwell. I had just been staring at documents all day and missed keys words as I skim read your post. I have this unfortunate need to own up to my mistakes.
I assume funding this by Union members will be put to the vote or be an individual contribution that you opt in to.
I, for one, will not be subscribing until I know a lot more about it, its membership, its priorities and its aims. It's a very broad umbrella.

Devorgilla

No problem, Retiredwell. I had just been staring at documents all day and missed keys words as I skim read your post. I have this unfortunate need to own up to my mistakes.
I assume funding this by Union members will be put to the vote or be an individual contribution that you opt in to.
I, for one, will not be subscribing until I know a lot more about it, its membership, its priorities and its aims. It's a very broad umbrella.

No problem Devorgilla no one makes more mistakes than I do these days.

Regarding membership of Peace and Justice "I think" it is only established organisations that can sign their members up at this early point of the launch. In that, it is obviously bodies that at present affiliate to the Labour Party that are being sought after to transfer that allegiance (or part of it) to Peace & Justice.

As stated, I am not entirely sure of the above, but with Len McCluskey being involved I cannot think it can be much different. I would also imagine that individual subscription will shortly be possible if that is not already so.

If anyone has full knowledge of the matter perhaps they can post.

For pities sake.

Does the Labour Party have a death wish?

Remember your comment last time Galaxy......’it’s not even subtle’ ?...well it applies now as well.

I note that the Peace & Justice Project is a Ltd company with two directors and no shareholders. Also asking for donations (and tax status from donors so they can receive more from the donations) yet they have no charitable status.

I will sit with this for a while before considering the way forward for me.

Perhaps Corbyn is taking lessons in funding from Trump.

Subtle R Us

The Peace & Justice Movement are to hold a public online launch event on January the seventeenth. Such questions as base policy, detailed membership subscriptions and how organisations can affiliate to the new movement will be given out at that event.

I am not sure if the two are linked but around that same date, the TUC have agreed to hold a special meeting to discuss its one hundred year charter support of the Parliamentary Labour Party with all the main trades unions in attendance.

Interesting times indeed for all holding left leaning political views in Britain.

Inviting followers to contribute to a private company without offering them voting rights or anything else - reminds me of the so-called "brexit party"

Or the short lived "Change UK" a lot of people on GN were so pleased to see.

From all I have read, it has yet to be decided if peace the Peace & Justice movement is to be a pressure and lobbying organisation or a full British political party. Jeremy Corbyn announced the startup of the movement this week and between that event and the 17th of January it's basic status, structures and core policies will, without doubt, be formulated.

Many organisations who at present affiliate to the Parliamentary Labour Party will prior to that date have to decide their approach to the new movement which will also encompass the TUC who have been at the core of support for the PLP within the wider Labour movement in Britain since the party came into being.

At this time many would hope I am sure that Keir Starmer will contemplate how he has led the party since his election as leader and take action to change and try and create some unity within the organisation. Should he not change tack it will quickly come about that matters will develop that are beyond his control or even influence, which will be disastrous for the present Labour Party.

Apologise for the text error above, that should read "the Peace & Justice movement"

There is absolutely no point people trying to talk on these threads whilst this is going on.

Retiredwell, I think it is not entirely honest to encourage people to join up or subscribe to the Corbyn Project, currently referred to as the Peace and Justice Movement, before it is decided whether it is a new political party or not. You can't belong to two political parties at the same time as there is a conflict of interests. People who wanted to stand for Council or Parliament who joined this would then be excluded from standing for Labour, and rightly so. Better for this new enterprise to sort itself out first before asking for donations via subscribers. Organisations which currently affiliate to Labour should have all the information before deciding whether they affiliate to this new one or not. It is a case of 'watch this space' I feel.