New EU Treaty - a good deal or not?

Of course Freeport’s will be very attractive to the wealthy, don’t forget that they have neatly avoided the Tax Avoidance Directive.

Gosh....I’m stunned that ‘clever’ people feel the need to belittle someone of the cheeriest dispositions who seems to me to have done okay in life (in spite of her intellectual limitations)!

A happy marriage, healthy and happy children and grandchildren, not to mention two properties - home and away! All bought and paid for - is that why folks feel the need to attack?

I would suggest that because you figure Sunak is more intelligent than yourself and you are prepared to believe what he says without apparent criticism is facile, not my reaction to such a comment

WW you make a series of entirely unsubstantiated assumptions about the following
1) me
2) what I “figure” as you put it
3) my intelligence vis à vis that of Rishi Sunak
4) what I may or not believe

The fact that you know diddley squat about me is further evidence that you do not have a leg to stand on - bandying insults is as good as it seems to get.
I repeat, your silly comment to Urmstongran about jumping off a pier is facile- neither perceptive nor informed.

Pantglas2

Gosh....I’m stunned that ‘clever’ people feel the need to belittle someone of the cheeriest dispositions who seems to me to have done okay in life (in spite of her intellectual limitations)!

A happy marriage, healthy and happy children and grandchildren, not to mention two properties - home and away! All bought and paid for - is that why folks feel the need to attack?

Bit weird.

Advising someone to think more critically and not accept someone’s rhetoric at face value is not attack. I am not even accepting that ug is indeed less intelligent than Sunak! In fact I suspect not.

MawBe

^I would suggest that because you figure Sunak is more intelligent than yourself and you are prepared to believe what he says without apparent criticism is facile, not my reaction to such a comment^

WW you make a series of entirely unsubstantiated assumptions about the following
1) me
2) what I “figure” as you put it
3) my intelligence vis à vis that of Rishi Sunak
4) what I may or not believe

The fact that you know diddley squat about me is further evidence that you do not have a leg to stand on - bandying insults is as good as it seems to get.
I repeat, your silly comment to Urmstongran about jumping off a pier is facile- neither perceptive nor informed.

Oh dear my reply was about ug

Do buck up.

Indeed- you do realise that some remainers have also achieved the same btw.

But let’s get into a silly argument rather than address the issues so much easier to bicker isn’t it?

So I will not take part in silly argument.

Last minute hysteria as folks finally realise that the UK is out of the EU with a deal that they have been predicting would never happen as from 01/01/2021 and their is nothing that their febrile ramblings and insults can do to alter it.

Sp * their should be there

Certainly not belittling anyone. I don’t judge people’s intelligence based on the university they attended or whether they attended university (if you look at Sunak’s bio he attended Winchester - it’s not that difficult to get into Oxford from Winchester). I’m sure he’s reasonably clever but I doubt he’s a genius and I would encourage anyone to challenge his opinions.

Indeed I know people who are almost certainly as clever as Sunak who left school at 16.

GrannyGravy13

Last minute hysteria as folks finally realise that the UK is out of the EU with a deal that they have been predicting would never happen as from 01/01/2021 and their is nothing that their febrile ramblings and insults can do to alter it.

I’d be interested in your thoughts on the deal. I’m surprised at the amount of sovereignty we have we seem to have continued to give up.

Not remotely hysterical.

Good job ‘febrile ramblings’ could never be construed as an insult.

Oh dear my reply was about ug

Do buck up
Piece of advice -address comments to the person concerned.
Not difficult.

MawBe

^Oh dear my reply was about ug^

Do buck up
Piece of advice -address comments to the person concerned.
Not difficult.

Anything to say about the deal? We have quite a lot of information now to be able to have the opportunity to look at it a bit critically havent we?

biba70

Indeed- you do realise that some remainers have also achieved the same btw.

Of course I do Biba - it’s only the cheery disposition that’s missing with them - when did you read Urmstongran complaining ad nauseum when stuff doesn’t go her way.?

Especially when she was stuck in Spain through COVID! Fair cheered everyone up daily on the Good Morning thread!

@ WW not at the moment thank,you.

Are there any thoughts about The Partnership Council?

I would be surprised if leavers find such an entity acceptable, particularly because the U.K. parliament will have no power over the decision making process.

Isn’t that a lack of sovereignty?

MawBe

@ WW not at the moment thank,you.

Fair enough. I can live in hope.

Kandinsky

I think it’s very sad that some remainers will spend the rest of their lives angry & bitter over leaving the EU.
What a waste of energy.
Leave it to the politicians to argue over every detail ( that’s what they’re paid for ) & just get on with your life ( what’s left of it )
I doubt Michel Barnier worry’s this much about Brexit as some of you lot.

Good advice.. Doubt it will be taken.
I shall certainly get on with my life anyway ?

Pantglas2

biba70

Indeed- you do realise that some remainers have also achieved the same btw.

Of course I do Biba - it’s only the cheery disposition that’s missing with them - when did you read Urmstongran complaining ad nauseum when stuff doesn’t go her way.?

Especially when she was stuck in Spain through COVID! Fair cheered everyone up daily on the Good Morning thread!

sorry, this is totally by the by- but she had plenty of time and opportunities to get back to UK.

sorry, this is totally by the by- but she had plenty of time and opportunities to get back to UK

So rude to refer to another member in this way
“Who’s she? The cat’s mother?”

clearly identified in the quote.

MawBe

^sorry, this is totally by the by- but she had plenty of time and opportunities to get back to UK^

So rude to refer to another member in this way
“Who’s she? The cat’s mother?”

Oh! for one glorious moment I thought you had commented on the deal.

Leave it to the politicians to argue over every detail ( that’s what they’re paid for ) & just get on with your life ( what’s left of it )

You mean the politicians that the people vote for? The ones you hope that people research their stances prior to voting?

I didn’t realise so many voted then washed their hands of the process. Governments job is to govern for us. Our job is to tell them what we want. Not just let them do whatever they want.

Remind me, what qualifications does one need to have to stand in an election? What makes those people so extra clever?

Why would you leave politicians to it? They need to know what their constituents need. I have written to my MP numerous times in the last 20 years (of red and blue tinges -
I live in a swing seat) & at times they have been very helpful. At other times cc’ing them is plenty. I’ve also submitted evidence to cross Party parliamentary committees, especially around human rights and learning disability. Not something that should be ignored & left to politicians. How would they know what was going on?

My grandmother worked with her MP to get the law changed regarding a certain aspect of merchant navy ships. Her son was lost at sea & she didn’t want other families to go through the same.

Lots of reasons to engage with politicians.