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Boris Johnson - unable to control his emotions.

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Dinahmo Sat 02-Jan-21 14:44:21

The following is an article by Marina Hyde about the effect Johnson's lack of control of his emotions has had on his actions regarding covid.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jan/01/boris-johnson-victim-emotions

Iam64 Sun 03-Jan-21 08:37:20

Why do some folks say "I'm sorry, but .....". If you disagree, why not say so clearly? 'I'm sorry but' isn't an apology. Its a passive aggressive way of disagreeing whilst attempting to sound 'nice'

I enjoyed the Marina Hyde article. But then, as MRD would have said 'you would do , wouldn't you'

Whitewavemark2 Sun 03-Jan-21 08:15:55

What I find so interesting, is Johnson’s stated admiration of Churchill, even going so far as to write a biography (I know the book is factually incorrect in a lot of his assertions), but Johnson certainly does not attempt to emulate Churchill in statesmanship. In fact I would go so far as to say that his leadership skills are so lacking that he could be seen as the antithesis of Churchill.

Bodach Sun 03-Jan-21 08:06:00

Come on, MayBee70 and FarNorth; comments such as these display a certain elitism and contempt for large sections of the British (and German) electorates. There's plenty of room in the MSM for all opinions; not just those which chime with your own.

FannyCornforth Sun 03-Jan-21 05:02:06

I've reported Suzan.

While I'm here...
Johnson's hair. I think that he ruffles it because he's quite bald on top. He moves his hair forward and up to disguise it. He's recently had what I should imagine quite a clever expensive cut to rectify the situation.

I started reading Tom Bower's book on Johnson. It's definitely worth a read, even if you just read the chapters about his father and his childhood. It's quite a revelation. I read it and felt genuine pity for the man.

Suzan1 Sun 03-Jan-21 02:39:20

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FarNorth Sun 03-Jan-21 02:27:23

'Popular' is vastly over-rated.

MayBee70 Sat 02-Jan-21 23:49:05

So you’re happen to spread their lies on social media then?

Bodach Sat 02-Jan-21 23:46:01

growstuff

MayBee70

Bodach

Here's what a German commentator had to say about Boris Johnson the other day: “ Just because someone has tangled hair, is prone to bursting into Latin, and has a somewhat chaotic private life doesn’t mean they cannot be a statesman of historic importance. Europeans of all stripes now know Johnson as the man who stood up against the behemoth that is the European bloc and, against all the odds, won the day for his country.”

Alexander Von Schoenburg, editor of ‘Bild’; Germany’s best-selling newspaper.

According to Wikipedia Bild is the German equivalent of The Sun so I assume it’s standard of journalism and relationship with the truth is similar also.

I would say "Bild" is worse than the Sun. It's succeeded in taking sensational journalism to a new level.

BTW "Bild" means "picture" in German and it's not really a newspaper but a comic strip.

Comic strip or not, 'Bild' is a "must read" for German politicians, and (like our own 'Sun') is both a leader and mirror of popular opinion for large swathes of the population. Those who dismiss it do so at their political peril.

MayBee70 Sat 02-Jan-21 23:36:46

And yet, Bodach, you’re prepared to believe things you read in the German equivalent of the Sun.

Bodach Sat 02-Jan-21 23:20:59

paddyanne

Thing is Jane those of us who know her and have been in her company know they aren't crocodile tears.She cares deeply for the country she serves....and that IS all the country not just those who voted for her .As the folk whose bedroom tax her government mitigates or the carers who got a wage rise AND a bonus when Hancock 's contribution was a BADGE they had to buy!Or the care experienced children who know they can and do turn to her for advice...they call her the chief mammy ..and no its not derogatory .She has a heart of gold .

Careful, Paddyanne. That sort of breathless hagiography reads like the sort of thing enthusiastic cadres used to spout in praise of Stalin, Mao Tse-tung and Kim Il-sung, generally accompanied by photos of them patting masses of adoring children on the head...
It's a small step from "Chief Mammy" to "Great Leader (in perpetuity)".

Lucretzia Sat 02-Jan-21 23:13:13

Did it begin with a T or C, growstuff?!

I think it's his way. Natural but showy with it. It's amplified.

I have to admit to rather liking him whenever he was on Have I Got News For You.

PM material?

Depends. He's different I suppose.

growstuff Sat 02-Jan-21 23:10:04

I once had a discussion with a staunch Conservative supporter about whether Johnson is a natural clown or whether it's all a show.

I reckoned it was a show. She reckoned it was natural. ("Clown" isn't the word we used, but I'd be banned if I wrote the word we did use.)

growstuff Sat 02-Jan-21 22:58:30

MayBee70

Bodach

Here's what a German commentator had to say about Boris Johnson the other day: “ Just because someone has tangled hair, is prone to bursting into Latin, and has a somewhat chaotic private life doesn’t mean they cannot be a statesman of historic importance. Europeans of all stripes now know Johnson as the man who stood up against the behemoth that is the European bloc and, against all the odds, won the day for his country.”

Alexander Von Schoenburg, editor of ‘Bild’; Germany’s best-selling newspaper.

According to Wikipedia Bild is the German equivalent of The Sun so I assume it’s standard of journalism and relationship with the truth is similar also.

I would say "Bild" is worse than the Sun. It's succeeded in taking sensational journalism to a new level.

BTW "Bild" means "picture" in German and it's not really a newspaper but a comic strip.

Callistemon Sat 02-Jan-21 22:25:44

merlotgran

^I think it works with besotted grannies,^

grin grin grin

Gransnet can be such a joy sometimes, merlotgran
???

merlotgran Sat 02-Jan-21 22:07:35

I think it works with besotted grannies,

grin grin grin

SueDonim Sat 02-Jan-21 21:27:19

If Nicola Sturgeon cares so much about children, why is she happy to preside over a failing education system?

LauraNorder Sat 02-Jan-21 21:21:44

I’m sorry to say, but in my opinion, the trouble with all these political threads recently with the same few posters continuing for pages and pages is that the only available conclusion was eloquently said by Mandy Rice-Davies.

paddyanne Sat 02-Jan-21 21:11:05

Thing is Jane those of us who know her and have been in her company know they aren't crocodile tears.She cares deeply for the country she serves....and that IS all the country not just those who voted for her .As the folk whose bedroom tax her government mitigates or the carers who got a wage rise AND a bonus when Hancock 's contribution was a BADGE they had to buy!Or the care experienced children who know they can and do turn to her for advice...they call her the chief mammy ..and no its not derogatory .She has a heart of gold .

Madgran77 Sat 02-Jan-21 21:01:58

whitewave2 ...the only reply can be "Trump"! grin

MaizieD Sat 02-Jan-21 21:01:32

Of course, Johnson can control his emotions. All that handwringing is completely false playacting. I think it works with besotted grannies, but I think that on the whole there is general disenchantment. He's certainly managed to alienate large swathes of professionals...

Callistemon Sat 02-Jan-21 20:51:24

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LauraNorder Sat 02-Jan-21 20:38:40

I’m terribly sorry vegansrock but I think good post/poor post is just another way of saying I agree/I disagree. No need for ‘in my opinion’.

MayBee70 Sat 02-Jan-21 19:58:49

Bodach

Here's what a German commentator had to say about Boris Johnson the other day: “ Just because someone has tangled hair, is prone to bursting into Latin, and has a somewhat chaotic private life doesn’t mean they cannot be a statesman of historic importance. Europeans of all stripes now know Johnson as the man who stood up against the behemoth that is the European bloc and, against all the odds, won the day for his country.”

Alexander Von Schoenburg, editor of ‘Bild’; Germany’s best-selling newspaper.

According to Wikipedia Bild is the German equivalent of The Sun so I assume it’s standard of journalism and relationship with the truth is similar also.

Callistemon Sat 02-Jan-21 19:12:55

Am sorry but am very annoyed that you posted these comments [?]as it was more or less what I was going to post.

Many apologies, I'm really sorry but nah, nah, ne nah, nah

growstuff Sat 02-Jan-21 18:59:34

merlotgran

If Boris did 'man up' and maintain a 'stiff upper lip' he'd be accused of being heartless and uncaring.

It must be difficult to get the right balance.

Silly article.

It doesn't matter what people accuse him of being, if something is the most sensible course of action and achieves results.