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Political Correctness or just Madness?

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Firecracker123 Mon 04-Jan-21 12:23:18

Dad's BARMY: BBC slaps 'discriminatory language' warning on film version of classic sitcom that refers to the French as 'frogs'

Dad's Army 1971 film now goes with a warning. You couldn't make it up could you.

Firecracker123 Mon 04-Jan-21 18:25:36

18:02Galaxy

If you are such snowflakes you cant cope with a warning you probably do need some help in coping.

You still don't get it do you ? no need to give me a warning on a Dad's Army film LOL I can take what ever this harmless funny film throws at me ?

MaizieD Mon 04-Jan-21 18:25:43

Galaxy

If you are such snowflakes you cant cope with a warning you probably do need some help in coping.

Precisely.

Firecracker123 Mon 04-Jan-21 18:27:50

I give up lol ????

Genty Mon 04-Jan-21 18:35:44

I always thought that people called the French 'frogs' because of all the frogs legs they eat!

Just thinking is it wrong to call a vegetarian Beefeater a Beefeater? grin

Iam64 Mon 04-Jan-21 18:39:05

Urmstongran

If you watch old black & white gangster movies Italians were referred to as ‘wops’ or ‘eyeties’. Chinese as ‘chinks’. Blacks as ‘niggers’ or ‘negro’.

Unacceptable language by today’s standards. Usual behaviour back then.

We ought not to judge history using today’s standards.

‘Fashions’ change. My elder relatives (in their 80’s) always refer to black people as ‘coloured’. As in ‘you know that coloured man who lives round the corner?’. They grew up using the term in the 50’s as they felt it was more polite than saying somebody was black. They thought that quite rude actually.

But times change. It sounds not only outdated but quite patronising to my ears if they say it. They are however nice people and I know they genuinely mean no offence so I don’t correct them.

Something strange is happening. I'm agreeing with urmstongran - again. I suspect its to do with the hemisphere - you know a northern thing, we find each other wherever we are and however different our political/brexit views may be there will be some common ground.

My husband had a book published a couple of years ago, which reviewed his area of work from a historical perspective. He struggled with terminology ie cretin, lunatic and so on. Eventually he decided the best thing was to use the correct terminology for which ever period in history he was covering. This meant using language he was not comfortable with but, as others have said, language and its acceptability changes all the time.
I saw my first black man in 1956. We were living in a village with a US airbase. the black GI's always walked in pairs. I was fascinated but my mum corrected me, no don't call them 'black' that's so rude, we say 'coloured'.

It's such a pity that some get outraged about the BBC acknowledging that the language used in some older programmes my now be considered offensive. Good for the BBC to actually address this. There really isn't any need to get all agitated about it.

Urmstongran Mon 04-Jan-21 18:59:45

Iam64 ??

Lucca Mon 04-Jan-21 19:16:53

Firecracker123

I give up lol ????

Ooh are you giving up LOL-ing? Hooray.

Firecracker123 Mon 04-Jan-21 19:34:50

No just giving up on leftie snowflakes on GN?

lemongrove Mon 04-Jan-21 19:40:38

I can’t remember what the programme was ( old age!) but a few days ago we were watching tv and a harmless old film came on preceded by dire warnings.We fell about laughing.

Eloethan Mon 04-Jan-21 19:46:01

They are not stopping the programme but merely pointing out that the language used is from another time and has now been recognised as possibly liable to cause offence.

I think it's just common courtesy.

Or do you think it's OK to for words like slag, cretin, pouffter, retard, gyppo, chinky, etc, etc, etc, to be used in the context of a comedy without comment?

Genty Whether a French person living in, or visiting, this country in those days considered French people being referred to as frogs as simply "harmless fun" is questionable. Words are often considered to be harmless until their use has a personal impact.

Iam64 Mon 04-Jan-21 19:54:24

Firecracker123

No just giving up on leftie snowflakes on GN?

Use of language does matter. The language used here to describe those of us who acknowledge that says it all

Firecracker123 Mon 04-Jan-21 20:09:05

Sigh ?

Genty Mon 04-Jan-21 20:12:54

Firecracker123

Sigh ?

sighing with Firecracker123

Firecracker123 Mon 04-Jan-21 20:19:18

Genty ????

Urmstongran Mon 04-Jan-21 20:24:01

Do you think it’s because we grew up hearing/using/accepting these words that that’s why some of us think ‘warnings’ per-broadcast seem a bit OTT?

For younger viewers I expect these words have never been their currency and in a much more multicultural society they would seem offensive. Are offensive. Just that some of us oldies don’t register them the same - which doesn’t actually make it right (nowadays).

GagaJo Mon 04-Jan-21 20:27:25

Not all of the insults are multicultural issues though. Many are sexist, homophobic, ableist, ageist.

I watched a movie at school once with a little person in it. PG rating. Innocuous I thought. Until I saw the little person in the class wincing at some of the comments in the film. Listening to it with a new ear, I realised, yes, it WAS offensive.

vegansrock Mon 04-Jan-21 20:33:02

Some people are too snowflake to skip over a simple warning before a film and have to complain about it.

Lucca Mon 04-Jan-21 20:35:34

There is sone sone very childish and rather nasty posting going on.....”leftie snowflake “ for example.

Firecracker123 Mon 04-Jan-21 20:44:18

Double sigh ??

Galaxy Mon 04-Jan-21 20:47:34

You must be exhausted firecracker.

Rosieroe Mon 04-Jan-21 20:49:59

How is comedy such as Dad’s Army labelled as ‘offensive’ while the programmers promote and create vehicles for ‘comedians’ such as Jimmy Carr and Frankie Boyle.

Galaxy Mon 04-Jan-21 20:51:46

Frankie Boyle is an utter arsehole. Hope that didnt offend anyone grin

grumppa Mon 04-Jan-21 21:44:54

Would the BBC issue a similar warning if Captain Mainwaring were to refer to Germans as the Bosch or as Huns?

Hellogirl1 Mon 04-Jan-21 22:06:33

We were puzzled when my daughter asked in a Florida supermarket if they had fags in there, and she got some very odd looks, then someone explained, lol!

Callistemon Mon 04-Jan-21 22:16:48

Galaxy

Frankie Boyle is an utter arsehole. Hope that didnt offend anyone grin

Don't hold back Galaxy ?

Why the BBC is giving him airtime is beyond me. I want a refund on my TV licence.