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GagaJo

Stormystar, I wouldn't take offense at geekees comment. Pure vitriol is bandied around on here at times. If you take offense easily, you won't last long on here.

Gangsta grannies here!

How was geekesse’s comment vitriolic ?

Thanks Gagajo as you can tell I’m a newbi but don’t be concerned I’m a fast learner

Who is DM?

I was neither condoning or condemning individual actions I was just opening up the discussion to the deeper meaning of Freedom of Speech and Thought. And yes I consider what happens within our Universities immensely important. What do you imagine banning DM will achieve ? and are we prepared for the repercussions of this. Unaccountable unelected giant cooperations are running the show and orchestrating the Narrative

Trump is and never has been worthy of the office of President of the United States.

His appalling disregard of the truth and incitement of violence should have got him thrown off any public forum long ago.

Stormystar, I wouldn't take offense at geekees comment. Pure vitriol is bandied around on here at times. If you take offense easily, you won't last long on here.

Gangsta grannies here!

I’d like a bit more explanation of the OP if possible? Are you saying Trump should not have been banned ? Just asking

A troublesome site which must have caused untold misery to many---good riddance I say.
It would appear that millions can say whatever they wish to a " faceless" person. Cowardice in its entirety.

Stormystar there’s a bit of a difference between student societies no-platforming guest speakers and Twitter banning the President of the United States for inciting violence and hatred.

Is your username in some way related to the storming of the Capitol?
Serious question.

Exactly Galaxy. We are sliding into a massive threat to Free Speech, as evidenced in our own universities through no platforming. Where debate and discussion of opposing opinions was the foundation of understanding insight and empathy. We are to a great degree socially constructed and now Global cooperations have power over governments to silence whom they choose. The ultimate consequences of this is very frightening. And Geekees why do you want to make me feel unwelcome for bringing up the subject for free discussion

As long as you are happy with someone like Trump deciding what those rules are and holding the reins of public discourse.

As MN has become a place where women discuss the conflict between womens sex based rights and the transgender issue, it has been consistently targeted, a number of advertisers were targeted to withdraw support from MN because of its commitment to free speech on this area. Nothing to do with Gina Ford, way before my time that. Some advertisers withdrew under pressure but Justine has stood firm on this issue.

Thanks growstuff I just googled & it was 2006!

Twitter et al are private companies. They aren’t a right and no one gets to demand their service. If you break their rules out you go.

And we have freedom of speech. We do not have freedom of responsibility.

janeainsworth

Galaxy Do you know that there is quite a concerted attempt to shut MN down, it doesnt work because Justine is very brave
who’s trying to shut MN down?

Gina Ford tried to sue Mumsnet ages ago, but I didn't know anybody else had.

Yes I agree if they have the power to ban (which I think they were right to do, this isnt about Trump who I loathe and is a very dangerous man) then they should take responsibility for supporting Trump for years. It needs public regulation then it actually would be democracy. Otherwise you have immense power in the hands of one individual who for all we know could be a different type of trump.

If the corner shop-keeper bears a responsibility for what is published on the noticeboard in his shop window, then Twitter has a responsibility for the fact that an insurrection was being organised (without concealing the fact) on their platform.

Yes of course but you need to be happy who decides what is hate speech because the last people in the world I want making that decision are the likes of Twitter who a fortnight ago thought everything trump did was ok.

Democratic society has decided that speech such as that used on Parler was unacceptable. That's democracy in action.

There's a difference between free speech and hate speech. I do not believe that unrestricted free speech should be allowed if people abuse the privilege. Unfortunately, the Parler organisers will just find a different platform.

Many corner shops have notice-boards in their windows where customers can post notices of things for sale, or planned concerts and so on. If one of those customers used the board to co-ordinate arrangements to torch the garden shed of someone they disliked, the shopkeeper would be justified in taking down the notice, and banning that customer from using the service in future.

If it was left in position, the owner of the shed would believe that the shopkeeper was partly to blame for any damage that was caused - and would be right, as the publishing of the plan and the contact details for anyone wishing to join in would be a major factor. I don't think that anyone would be so crass as to try to support the customer if he/she tried to claim their rights had been violated.

What was organised by Parler via Twitter was just as illegal, and involved many more people and more targets.

Justine Roberts founder of Mumsnet,

Who is Justine?

Galaxy Do you know that there is quite a concerted attempt to shut MN down, it doesnt work because Justine is very brave
who’s trying to shut MN down?

Do you know that there is quite a concerted attempt to shut MN down, it doesnt work because Justine is very brave, but if she wasnt women would not have a forum to discuss issues relating to their sex. We cant just pretend that all this is ok. Its luck mostly.