Vote is Yea to impeach Donald Trump

That will be the basis for the argument used to stop it CraftyGranny but experts of the US constitution take different views.

Trump though that an ex-president could be impeached. He wanted to impeach Barack Obama.

However, it still looks unlikely that 17 Republican Senators will be brave enough to act with their conscience as it would likely mean them and their families needing massive levels of security for the rest of their lives.

How can he be impeached, he is no longer the President? They can only impeach a sitting President

No need for votes and elections, then. All anyone needs to do is threaten more violence than the other side and they will get their way. Much cheaper, too, than organising all those campaigns and ballots and counting and recounting the votes for each candidate. (sarcasm alert)

They came from across America, summoned by President Donald Trump to march on Washington in support of his false claim that the November election was stolen and to stop the congressional certification of Democrat Joe Biden as the victor.

“Big protest in D.C. on January 6th,” Trump tweeted a week before Christmas. “Be there, will be wild!”

The insurrectionist mob that showed up at the president’s behest and stormed the U.S. Capitol was overwhelmingly made up of longtime Trump supporters, including Republican Party officials, GOP political donors, far-right militants, white supremacists, off-duty police, members of the military and adherents of the QAnon myth that the government is secretly controlled by a cabal of Satan-worshiping pedophile cannibals. Records show that some were heavily armed and included convicted criminals, such as a Florida man recently released from prison for attempted murder.

apnews.com/article/us-capitol-siege-trump-supporters-8edfd3bb994568b7cdcd2243ad769101

If the Republican Senators have any respect for truth, justice and the constitution of the USA, they should convict Trump at his impeachment trial.

Sadly I suspect that this will not happen because of the threats of violence from these insane Trump supporters.

He was talking about setting up his own political party which would be really good news as it would spread the votes for him over 2 parties instead of just one.

In Sundown, Texas, Mayor Jonathan Strickland said there’s “no way in hell” Biden won fairly. The only way he’ll believe it, he said, is if Trump himself says so.

“Trump is the only one we’ve been able to trust for the last four years,” said Strickland, an oilfield production engineer. “As far as the civil war goes, I don’t think it’s off the table.”

www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-fraud-insight-idUSKBN2801D4

The problem is that these millions of Trump followers have now switched from watching Fox News (far more extreme right wing than anything we have in this country) to Newsmax and AON which are even further off the edge of reason, encouraging nonsense conspiracy theories and whipping up insurrection.

The main thing is that he never, ever tries to become President again.

With former President Donald Trump's Senate impeachment trial looming, several Republicans in the upper chamber are reportedly rallying around the argument that impeaching a president who is already out of office is unconstitutional.

As The Dispatch and Politico note, scholars in legal circles that span the political spectrum generally disagree, and Trump himself suggested ex-presidents could be tried a year ago. Per The Washington Post, when Trump was impeached for the first time, he complained that Congress should be going after former President Barack Obama instead over comments he made about health care. "We should impeach him for that," Trump said. "Why aren't we impeaching him?"

news.yahoo.com/trump-himself-suggested-former-president-160600047.html

We were warned. This is a post from last September.

"Among the staunch Trump supporters are those who will merely vote for him, those who will demonstrate for him — something Trump encourages — and those who will use violence in order to ensure the re-election of the man they see as their only potential saviour. Violence is a real possibility as the campaign progresses"

theconversation.com/why-hard-core-trump-supporters-ignore-his-lies-144650

Yes, I think you are right about that Chewbacca
I don’t think it matters if he isn’t actually convicted ( it seems unlikely) what matters is that impeachment charges have been brought (twice!) and that his name is now mud, even with many Republicans.He may try and run for some kind of public office but unlikely he will get anywhere with it.

I would very much like to see Trump disgraced and possibly imprisoned for all the harm that he has caused

I don't think that this will happen in the short term but I think that eventually, when all the dust has settled, he will. He's made a lot of enemies, who have long memories, and who will wait until he's on his financial uppers and be unable to call in all his rich and influential friends to help him.

Apparently several Republicans who no longer support Trump will not support the vote to convict because they are worried about local reaction o their homes and families.

I would very much like to see Trump disgraced and possibly imprisoned for all the harm that he has caused.

I hope they look at the websites Trump and his Twitter-mate Dan Scavino were trawling. Then someone needs to disclose what Trump actually knew ahead of his rabble-rousing. I believe that would be enough to convict.

A two-thirds majority is needed to convict Trump. If all 100 senators are present for the vote, at least 17 Republicans need to join the Democrats to convict Trump.

They could do what Johnson did and go somewhere awfully important on the day.

I don't see it as a 'vindictive' move by the Democrats. Trump incited sedition. Howling should people let him get away with lying, encouraging his crazy followers to believe the Dems stole the election etc etc. It's like turning a blind eye to any other kind of criminal behaviour,or putting it on the 'too hard' list

For Americans. I do too.
Whichever way it goes I hope there’s a degree of closure.

I’m not hopeful though to be honest. I think it’s a vindictive move by the Democrats. They could have let sleeping dogs lie for a week. They keep giving Trump and his nuttier supporters more oxygen.

I hope they come to the right verdict

Now for the next bit.
I had to look this up.

“Here’s a guide to what happens next.

Is the impeachment proceeding over?

No. Impeachment refers only to the House, the lower chamber of Congress, bringing charges, or Articles of Impeachment.

The next major step is for the Senate, the upper chamber, to have a trial to determine Trump’s guilt.

A two-thirds majority is needed to convict Trump. If all 100 senators are present for the vote, at least 17 Republicans need to join the Democrats to convict Trump.”

Giuliani is up to his neck in it. Way too late for him to be wriggling out of it now.

It is beginning to look as if Guiliani won’t be representing Trump at the impeachment trial.

Trump is also stomping around telling staff not to pay Guiliani

The further down he falls, the better. This is the best news we’ve had for a year!?

Trump is a malignant narcissist - way past time he was gone.

I hope this won't be the green light to get his equally deluded supporters rioting again.

One word - Yay!!

pippa I think that what Trump must be desperate to avoid are all the litigations piling up against him.

He is I believe technically bankrupt, and with the banks rapidly distancing themselves he is going to find it totally impossible to raise the capital for projects like the Dubai one and others in Indonesia, India etc. Although I guess there are dubious people who are prepared to lend him the capital. He stands for the very wealthy and his policies always protected their interests regardless of what he sold to the blue collar worker etc.