Pritti Patel and bullying

So even if she is a shouting and swearing bully, it is o.k. because she must have a reason.

However bad someone is at their job they should not be bullied out of it.
I have seen bullying in action and the distress it caused leading to a tribunal which the bully lost but still kept his job.

Sadly it's the only way out when someone's lost an argument.

Cite your evidence that Sir Philip Rutnam ‘didn’t have a great record in other departments’ please Aveline?

Once you can prove that what you say is true people might consider your alternative evidence. Not that two wrongs make a right.

PP could have been bullied at school ? You usually find this.

The bullied becomes the bully.

No. My goodness, now I'm feeling bullied.
I've stated my opinion.to which I'm entitled.

Aveline

That civil servant didn't have a great record in other departments. What form did the bullying take? Did she shout and swear? If so I wonder why?

Is that how you operated, Aveline? Shouting and swearing at people to make them do what you wanted?

That civil servant didn't have a great record in other departments. What form did the bullying take? Did she shout and swear? If so I wonder why?

It's OK she's a bully, she's cost us a fortune but she's keeping her job! You really do begin to wonder about the skeletons she knows about.

No one should excuse bullying.
No one.

Does PP have experience of the sharp end of business? She worked in PR so she surely had some training in managing change if that was what she was trying to do.

Aveline I think that you're forgetting that the civil servant is several years younger than most of us and was probably a child in the days of Yes Minister.

In 1970 I worked for the Electricity Council and we were not allowed to wear trousers to work. Throughout my working life, until I left London we would regularly go to the pub at lunchtime. These are examples of how things used to be and are no longer. People in the state sector do have job security to a greater extent than those in the private sector but not to the extent that people had 40 or so years ago.

PP's behaviour strikes me as being somewhat out of date and it's time she was taken to task.

I don't know. Have you ever worked in a large organisation that's hide bound with ancient rules and regulations and, generally, everything done in certain ways because that's the way its always been done? Everyone has a safe job and pension. In comes someone from outside and with experience of the sharp end of business and industry. I'm pretty sure there would be an expectation of change and that it would all come as a shock. The 'Sir Humphreys' of this world (from Yes Minister) spring to mind.

So true Parsley

So, PP is a breath of fresh air because it is a good thing to bully a person out of their job? Why would anyone think that kind of behaviour is acceptable in any workplace. To blame the victim as he deserves it for being dead wood is an astonishing justification in this day and age.

Those of you who defend Priti Patel and her bullying ways have obviously never worked with or for a bully.

There is no excuse for this behaviour.

MaizieD is right, it's a pity it was settled, however the personal stress of pursuing these actions (for the target of the bully and those who love them) is enormous. It can change even a strong person forever.

That Boris Johnson backs the bully is so, so sad - and a further punishment for those who speak up.

Actually growstuff when the tax payer is footing the bill and having to pay ever increasing council tax I think there is justification for knowing how our hard earned money is spent or wasted in many cases.

Surely bullying is indefensible whatever the circumstances, whoever it is doing it, and whatever your political allegiances are. It’s a clear sign of somebody who is out of their depth in their job/role, but whose ego won’t allow them to admit to having personal weaknesses. The cap does seem to fit for Priti Patel.

I should imagine she's an absolute cow to work for but that's the sort of woman who seems to appeal to Tory men. Shades of Nanny and Matron.

Gwyneth

eazybee look no further than your local council. Often Chief executives who leave their jobs for whatever reason are paid eye watering sums of money and no one is held responsible or any explantation given to the council tax payer. I know because I’ve tried to get answers but my requests for answers are just ignored and it just goes on.

Quite right! Any financial agreement would be subject to legal orders to protect all involved. Unless the law has been broken, it's none of your business.

Lucca

Priti Patel, Tory, good.
Meghan, bad.
Nicola sturgeon, SNP, bad.

I believe that is how it works on GN ?!

Oh, yes! Indeed it does! It's simple and doesn't require any sophistication of thought processes.

Strong women are often seen as bad and/or bullying.

Priti Patel, Tory, good.
Meghan, bad.
Nicola sturgeon, SNP, bad.

I believe that is how it works on GN ?!

I wonder if those who defend PP would also defend the Duchess of Sussex, maybe she was trying to get rid of Palace “dead wood”, who knows, certainly not anyone spouting off on here. Ditto Nicole Sturgeon, hope they’ll be defending her too( won’t hold my breath).