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Monday - will you watch....and why?

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Pantglas2 Sat 06-Mar-21 21:00:12

Obviously, the Oprah interview with the Sussexes.

I will because I want to hear it straight from the source rather than media spin/interpretation so that I can comment later on what I saw and heard, when discussions start up as they surely will.

However, I don’t think they should be doing an interview at all (I felt the same about Diana and Charles interviews) these things end up backfiring against them.

JaneJudge Tue 09-Mar-21 20:29:02

Callistemon

^if people started asking if I was ok I would have started to think I looked like I was on deaths^
Asking gently, with their heads on one side, JaneJudge

no one would be brave enough to do that....

Callistemon Tue 09-Mar-21 20:42:55

Certainly not if you are perimenopausal shock

maddyone Tue 09-Mar-21 23:08:57

Callistemon

^if people started asking if I was ok I would have started to think I looked like I was on deaths^
Asking gently, with their heads on one side, JaneJudge

gringringrin

Jaberwok Wed 10-Mar-21 07:48:43

What I found jaw dropping, apart from the two weddings!!!, was that Harry seemed to be astonished and angry that he had to use his own money to support his family!! Does he seriously think that his father and the British taxpayer should fund their lavish lifestyle outside the RF in perpetuity? Unbelievable!

Grannynannywanny Wed 10-Mar-21 08:47:23

I agree Jaberwok. Harry has repeatedly said over the past couple of years how he needs to do this for the sake of his wife and family etc. After portraying himself as the manly provider and protector it seems to have come as a shock to him that he did actually need to provide as his father had cut off his allowance. 36 years old with a wife and family and expecting his father to provide financial support to top up the £40 million left to him by his mother. This interview highlighted how detached they are from the real world and what’s going on.

Luckygirl Wed 10-Mar-21 08:50:21

"it seems to have come as a shock to him that he did actually need to provide"

How can one conclude this?

Katie59 Wed 10-Mar-21 08:59:39

£40 million is peanuts in the context of the lifestyle they have chosen, their friend Oprah is worth £2000 million, are they friends or media fodder.

Anniebach Wed 10-Mar-21 09:12:13

They have made themselves media fodder

tickingbird Wed 10-Mar-21 09:27:48

Anniebach Agree but if they weren’t media fodder they’d struggle to survive. They need to trade on being Royal to do that.

Elegran Wed 10-Mar-21 09:33:13

If they can't survive on the interest on £40 million they need to downsize to a smaller home - as OAPs have to when they are no longer employed, have no nest egg to dip into, and only have their state pension.

Anniebach Wed 10-Mar-21 09:37:42

I just do not believe she had thoughts of suicide, that she attended the event in the Albert Hall because she was to frightened to stay home. Harry could have had psychiatrists lining up in the drive.

I am angry with her, using mental illness to gain sympathy and kick her in laws.

Alegrias1 Wed 10-Mar-21 09:41:29

Piers Morgan just got sacked for saying that Annie

Or "decided to leave", believe whichever you like.

AmberSpyglass Wed 10-Mar-21 09:45:01

Anniebach Why do you think someone would lie about it? And why do you think it’s unlikely that she in particular wouldn’t be susceptible, as we all are, to dark thoughts and mental illness?

maddyone Wed 10-Mar-21 09:46:42

Alegrias1

Piers Morgan just got sacked for saying that Annie

Or "decided to leave", believe whichever you like.

It doesn’t matter what you believe either Alegrias.

M0nica Wed 10-Mar-21 09:48:03

They already have the private means to support a comfortable life style with out selling themselves on the media. They should have thought all this through before they absconded.

They do not have to have the opulent expensive life style they have chosen. I am sure all of us would like to choose a life style more opulent than the one we have, but knuckle down and match our lifestyle to our available resources. So should they.

I thought, after Prince Harry's successful army career and real empathy for the squaddies he served with and the Invictus Games, that he had a real understanding of ordinary people's lives. How wrong can you be!

Sadly, his mother's death seems to have left Prince Harry still frozen in the emotional pre-pubescent age he was when she died. Petulant, demanding and expecting everyone to put what he wants and his welfare in front of everything and everyone else.

It is a sad disappointment, when he had shown such sympathy and empathy for other people and was making a distinctive life for himself through direct involvement in causes with the armed forces and in Africa.

Anniebach Wed 10-Mar-21 09:53:03

Alegrias1 I have only watched one Piers Morgan interview, he recently interviewed Rupert Everett, I watched because it
was Everett not Morgan.

AmberSpyglass I didn’t say she wouldn’t be susceptible to mental illness, everyone is. I said I do not believe her claims of
that event in the Albert Hall.

Alegrias1 Wed 10-Mar-21 09:53:30

maddyone

Alegrias1

Piers Morgan just got sacked for saying that Annie

Or "decided to leave", believe whichever you like.

It doesn’t matter what you believe either Alegrias.

No it doesn't maddyone, you are correct.

However PM did have to leave his job for denying that MM had mental health problems, so anybody else who says similar things should be aware of the implications of what they are saying.

Anniebach Wed 10-Mar-21 09:56:15

I am aware of what I am saying, I gave my opinion ,

tickingbird Wed 10-Mar-21 09:57:17

Piers Morgan will be snapped up by some other media outlet. I don’t care for the man or his hectoring manner but he’ll be fine and I applaud him for having the guts to say what many are thinking.

Katie59 Wed 10-Mar-21 09:57:40

With £40m Harry could have bought a very large private estate and taken his family away from all the problems. Overseas if needed and lived a private, or partly private life, He didn’t he chose to try and humiliate his family and father (Charles?) in particular, to make money.

Calendargirl Wed 10-Mar-21 09:57:42

They do not have to have the opulent expensive lifestyle they have chosen

No, they don’t. In the course of the conversation, they talked about ‘basics’ or ‘’back to basics’, something along those lines. Probably whilst admiring the rescue chickens, who appear to have been housed in a pretty ‘basic’ hen house.

hmm

But Princess Anne was laughed at recently, when her lived-in, bit shabby sitting room was featured in the media.
I suppose when you’re royal, or even when you’ve left, it’s a difficult balancing act.

Lexisgranny Wed 10-Mar-21 09:59:50

I do not dispute the fact that she has mental issues. I feel it unlikely that she would sit crying in the Albert Hall and no-one would notice. I also wonder why they were unable to get help themselves, why did they need to do this through palace officials? Knowing her fragile state who on earth would Harry tell her about the issue of the colour of the skin of future children. This is one of several areas which are to say the least dubious.

trisher Wed 10-Mar-21 10:01:26

^ and then it is made clear that this private life is for sale to the highest media bidder.^ M0nica you do know they were not paid for this interview don't you?
As for Prince Harry and the army it is well known that the structure and discpline involved in army life attracts people who have had disturbing life events. It helps them to get through. Unfortunately after they leave others can finish up on the streets as their mental health problems multiply. H has the financial assets to stop this happening. I wouldn't imagine anything in his life after the death of his mother provided him with the help he needed to move on. It's not that sort of family.
He is still involved in Africa through Sentebale and with the Invictus games news.sky.com/story/duke-and-duchess-of-sussex-invictus-games-proud-to-have-harry-remain-as-patron-after-royal-announcement-12222741

JaneJudge Wed 10-Mar-21 10:06:00

I liked Princess Anne's lounge grin

It is true though, there are lots of country estates in boring, untrendy counties which are lived in by wealthy old money who walk around the village or ride their ponies and even go to the village pub and more or less left alone.

M0nica Wed 10-Mar-21 10:27:56

Prince Harry is a grown man, well past childhood, callow youth and with the experience of service life at the cutting edge. Service he was commended for. He should by now have the maturity to recognise and can well afford to commission and pay for any help he needs.

I come from an army family and have worked with an army charity helping serving and exservicemen and I have personal experience of the deficiencies of the army in dealing with mental welfare.

Before his marriage Prince Harry seemed to be carving out a very distinct role for himself in the RF through his practical and hands on work with the Invictus Games and at Sentebale. I am sure that would have continued to develop this practical involvement with other causes and charities, had he not withdrawn into private life.

Whether the Sussexes were paid for their appearance on Oprah or not, it is all part of a carefully planned publicity campaigned to help them make an income out of their only asset, their connection to the RF.

If they were really seeking a private life, then they would have avoided an interview like this like the plague. The Duchess would probably return to her career as an actress and the Duke could continue to develop his charity work as he did it before, quietly and effectively.

It is their hypocrisy, leaving the RF for a private life, then moving to California and La-La-land, the biggest goldfish bowl in the world to pursue a working life based entirely on exploiting their relationship to the RF.