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Firecracker123

I was going to add put that in your pipe and smoke it ?

And you did.

I thought everyone knew we imported vaccine from EU, that’s where the Pfizer vaccine was made.

I was going to add put that in your pipe and smoke it ?

07:38vegansrock

The decision to pause the AZ vaccine was to get reassurance for a sceptic population.

Well that turned out well didn't it?

Just as well the vaccines were ordered early ( and this time not by a crony paid billions ) as our politicians mucked up just about everything else over covid, as evidenced by our world beating death rates.

Well the EU has mucked up big time with their so called vaccine rollout, France is in the throws of a third covid wave with new lockdowns starting, so don't worry the EU will soon be world beating with death rates because of their incompetence and the UK because of our world beating vaccination programme it will be business as usual.

The decision to pause the AZ vaccine was to get reassurance for a sceptic population. Hopefully all will be back up and running now the EMA have added their voice to the WHO etc. Brexit has added to bureaucracy , perhaps those who think we are rid of bureaucracy can point to examples of how well that has worked. We do import vaccines from the EU btw, we don’t make all of it ourselves, you wouldn’t know it by the fact that our politicians hardly ever mention it. Just as well the vaccines were ordered early ( and this time not by a crony paid billions ) as our politicians mucked up just about everything else over covid, as evidenced by our world beating death rates.

EU politicians have shot themselves in the foot over suspending AZ vaccine, now many don’t trust it, madness.

GillT56 I've had emails from various companies that I've bought a variety of products from in the past which state that they are not sending items to the EU.The latest this evening is from the Royal Opera House telling me about new products for sale but they have temporarily suspended all orders to EU countries.

We are well shut of the bureaucrats in Brussels who play politics with people's lives.

Leaving aside the present pandemic situation, GrannyRose, can you explain how bureaucrats in Brussels have been playing politics with people's lives?

Some examples would be really helpful.

You see, after 5 years I'm still waiting to be convinced of the harm the EU did me...

If you can't do this I'm afraid it will speak volumes for your understanding of the EU and how it works.

BTW. Are we well shut of that pesky old frictionless trade, too?

I don’t know wether the Brexit campaigners were stupid or dishonest but there would never have been a majority for leave knowing what we know now.
Of course there would.
What you are describing are teething problems. We've been in the EU for forty years, you can't expect us to come out and face no problems at all. All will be well in the end. We are well shut of the bureaucrats in Brussels who play politics with people's lives.

Maizie - as far as I know things such as prawns are fine but the time now taken to get the load through customs etc has meant that it has rotted while waiting to be transported. There was a report early on about a company having £50k of stock rotting while held up en route.
The fishing industry has really been let down by Brexit - what is the point of being allowed to catch more fish if there is little market for the types of catch? The fish that Brits prefer is not caught in U.K. waters but needs to be imported.

The constant blaming of covid19 for the problems brought on deliberately, by Brexit is getting tiresome. Just what will it take for people to realise that this is a complete disaster? And no, please don't tell me about the EU countries not getting their vaccination programmes sorted out, this has nothing to do with us leaving. I was browsing a website last night, a company which I occasionally buy clothes from, and plastered across the top of their page was a message about currently being unable to send any of their goods to the EU due to uncertainty and unreliability of information. Do you think Grannyrose that I should just send them an email saying Just hold on in there and we will all see the enormous benefits of not being shackled to the Juggernaut that is the EU?

GrannyRose15

^It’s now clear Brexit is an act of self-harm – so why are Labour and the Tories silent?^

This is not clear at all.

Yes there are problems. But we have had a pandemic. And it is very early days. Just hold on in there and we will all see the enormous benefits of not being shackled to the Juggernaut that is the EU.

It’s not the pandemic it’s the time and expense of customs that is hitting companies.
Yes the EU has regulations, so does every country, including UK, at present most trade deals with third countries are just being rolled over, that is the same as EU members get. Eventually there will be new deals but it will take time and the outcome uncertain, thats why Brexiteers cannot specify ANY positive gains.
It’s probably going to get worse at ports and airports when tourism starts again, far from the free and easy travel we had.

I don’t know wether the Brexit campaigners were stupid or dishonest but there would never have been a majority for leave knowing what we know now.

Brexit means a company in Northern Ireland is forced to source from EU rather than UK.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-northern-ireland-56430392

Of course the majority of NI voters wanted to remain in the EU. What a pity the DUP did not support them.

It was pretty obvious that anyone exporting was going to have problems, nobody expected it to be so difficult, in practice most have to use a customs agent because the rules are very complex. There aren’t enough agents so it causes extra cost and delays.
At present many imports are getting waived through, that concession has just been extended, when the full import regulations come in it will be just as bad for imports.

“Just hold on in there” - tell that to the folk going out of business, moving their operations to the EU, or live in NI. We are busy building our own juggernaut of regulations.

It’s now clear Brexit is an act of self-harm – so why are Labour and the Tories silent?

This is not clear at all.

Yes there are problems. But we have had a pandemic. And it is very early days. Just hold on in there and we will all see the enormous benefits of not being shackled to the Juggernaut that is the EU.

It’s now clear Brexit is an act of self-harm – so why are Labour and the Tories silent?

The calamitous consequences of leaving the EU are becoming plainer with every passing week.

www.newstatesman.com/politics/brexit/2021/03/it-s-now-clear-brexit-act-self-harm-so-why-are-labour-and-tories-silent

Welshwife

It is not all shellfish just bivalves which are caught by the water quality ban. Other shellfish is able to go into the EU but the speed of getting there is the problem - hopefully that can be addressed and sorted out.

What other shellfish can get in, Welshwife?

I 'think' a few UK shellfish exporters fish in Grade A waters, but most of them don't. It won't be 'sorted' for them until our waters are upgraded or we rejoin the Single Market.
Apparently putting them through a depuration plant in the UK is not possible because it stresses them and, because of the intervening time period between depuration and arrival in the EU they're likely to be dead or dying when they arrive.

www.politicshome.com/news/article/shellfish-purification-centres-exports

It is not all shellfish just bivalves which are caught by the water quality ban. Other shellfish is able to go into the EU but the speed of getting there is the problem - hopefully that can be addressed and sorted out.

Yes maizied this point does seem to have gone over many heads, perhaps the euphoria of "winning" has blinded people to the fact that: in 2010 as part of the EU, Britain voted to ban the importation of shellfish from third countries. MEP Farage was on fisheries committee but attended one out of 42 meetings. Same man then campaigned for Britain to become a third country. The idiocy is off the scale. 90% of fishermen voted to leave. Well on their stupid bloody heads be it I fail to see why I as a taxpayer should bail them out.

a reduction in markets due to restaurants in Europe not taking the huge amounts of shellfish that they did pre-Brexit,

A small point that people don't seem to have taken on board is that the EU restaurants (and consumers) CAN'T ever take our shellfish, pandemic or not, because the regulation the British were instrumental in making in 2011 forbids the import of unpurated live shellfish from a third country.

An Englishman resident in Spain talking on James O'Brien last week. He voted to remain. He said that the other remain voters that he knows in Spain have accepted the situation and got themselves Spanish residency. The leavers are moaning about having to change their driving licences and do all the other paperwork necessary to stay. They are not a happy bunch.

Remember too that the 'only' 40% drop in exports has been softened by as Urmostongran pointed out, a reduction in markets due to restaurants in Europe not taking the huge amounts of shellfish that they did pre-Brexit, and also the stockpiling affect of retailers seeing how the wind was blowing and getting their warehouses packed. So, on this agreed basis, would anyone like to lay a bet on what the next quarter's drop will be? 70% is my guess, but I also anticipate the figures used for comparison to be changed in order to soften the clusterf**k that is Brexit. So, what excuses or blame will the supporters come up with then? Covid can't be blamed for everything indefinitely you know.

The United Kingdom · Anglosceptic - lived in the UK
71 pages of paperwork to export for 1 lorry load of fish from the UK to the EU. Would this be an example of, economic stupidity, or EU red tape that Brexit was supposed to enable the UK to escape?

You didn’t escape EU red tape, you ran into it. None of these things were necessary as a member, but are now necessary because of Brexit. So it’s just an example of how stupid Brexit is.

www.quora.com/q/brexitactually?__nsrc__=4&__snid3__=18660636428

Dinahmo

Exports to the EU from GB have dropped by 40%. During the same period imports from the EU have dropped by 20%. This might suggest that the EU doesn't need us as much as we need them.

Furthermore the problems with paperwork are likely to continue for some time because apparently the UK is short of 50,000 people to deal with the export documents.

It reflects that it is less difficult to import than export, stocking up in December has affected volume too. When imports begin to be checked properly in June (?) it will need a lot more customs agents in the UK.

No winners on either side