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Covid funeral rules ..yes it's about PP funeral

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vampirequeen Thu 15-Apr-21 06:57:05

The rules say only 30 people can attend a funeral and a lot has been made of the fact that the RF are following this rule. Now it seems that 30 people are going to be in the chapel but 750 members of the armed forces will be in attendance to do a bit of marching and band playing.

How come 30 means 30 to the rest of us but 30 can be 780 for this funeral?

Not being particularly anti RF. Just seems an unnecessary Covid spreading risk.

3nanny6 Thu 15-Apr-21 13:31:45

Are the crowds going to keep away as they have been asked to.?

The times I have heard on the news that the palace is telling people to just stay home and watch on T.V. is getting tedious.

I still think that Windsor will be busy on Saturday and people will be flocking there.
Also Buckingham Palace is also likely to see crowds out.

suziewoozie Thu 15-Apr-21 13:27:42

Alegrias1

Yes suzie, how lovely. And I forgot about Peter Phillips visiting a friend in a wee village in Eastern Scotland, when he lives in Gloucestershire. The Police got involved.

I'm not going to criticise them any more than anybody else, but let's not pretend they are saints.

The cover was it was a ‘business’ trip. Yeah right

suziewoozie Thu 15-Apr-21 13:26:31

vegansrock

I haven’t seen her maj in a mask

Here you are

Alegrias1 Thu 15-Apr-21 13:26:12

Cross post!

Alegrias1 Thu 15-Apr-21 13:26:01

vegansrock

I haven’t seen her maj in a mask

She wore one for the service at Westminster Abbey for the Unknown Soldier, I believe.

eazybee Thu 15-Apr-21 13:25:56

She wore one in Westminster Abbey visiting the Grave of the Unknown Soldier.

Alegrias1 Thu 15-Apr-21 13:25:08

Yes suzie, how lovely. And I forgot about Peter Phillips visiting a friend in a wee village in Eastern Scotland, when he lives in Gloucestershire. The Police got involved.

I'm not going to criticise them any more than anybody else, but let's not pretend they are saints.

vegansrock Thu 15-Apr-21 13:22:58

I haven’t seen her maj in a mask

suziewoozie Thu 15-Apr-21 13:22:03

Alegrias1

^I don’t think I’ve seen any reports of the queen or close members of the RF breaking Covid rules^

Charles and Camilla travelled to the Balmoral Estate at the start of the pandemic when we were all under a stay at home order. Charles managed to get himself tested when there weren't enough tests to cover Health Care workers. William and Catherine came to Scotland when cross border travel was not allowed (still isn't, actually). They said it was work. That's not sniping, its direct criticism.

The sainted Wessexes and Cambridges ‘accidentally’ met up in Norfolk with their families at some Christmas lights thing on the Queen’s estate. By complete coincidence, they booked adjoining slots and so, as you do, just went round together in a group . That was nice for them wasn’t it.

Anniebach Thu 15-Apr-21 13:21:32

Would Charles not have been tested when he had the virus ?

William and Kate were working when they crossed into Scotland

Redhead56 Thu 15-Apr-21 13:10:06

I see it from a different view and I am not taking sides. Just say we were suddenly under threat. Military personnel would amass be deployed to protect us. Realistically would people concern themselves with the military not having masks and social distancing then?

Alegrias1 Thu 15-Apr-21 12:52:05

I don’t think I’ve seen any reports of the queen or close members of the RF breaking Covid rules

Charles and Camilla travelled to the Balmoral Estate at the start of the pandemic when we were all under a stay at home order. Charles managed to get himself tested when there weren't enough tests to cover Health Care workers. William and Catherine came to Scotland when cross border travel was not allowed (still isn't, actually). They said it was work. That's not sniping, its direct criticism.

Teacheranne Thu 15-Apr-21 12:45:50

I expect had the funeral taken place under normal times, there would have been thousands of military present, marching, riding horses, playing music, saluting along the route and in a procession. So it will be a much smaller affair with only 750 troops present to represent all the armed forces. I imagine that they will be in groups ie bubbles of troops who live and work as one household, possibly further apart than normal and well away from other groups from different regiments. There are so many people involved in planning this funeral that I’m sure it will be Covid safe.

The problem will be if people ignore the plea to keep away and go to watch it, then social distancing might be difficult. I don’t think I’ve seen any reports of the queen or close members of the RF breaking Covid rules, unlike many other “famous” people like celebrities, sportspeople, politicians, tv personalities etc.

And don’t get me started on the crowns of people who have been partying outside very crowded pubs in city centre this week - Borough Market in London was rammed!

Please, just leave the RF to grieve without this constant sniping and nit picking.

Callistemon Thu 15-Apr-21 12:45:03

sorry, limit on numbers at funerals.

There have been so many over the past year of people we know, none Covid related.
sad

Callistemon Thu 15-Apr-21 12:43:22

Because of the limit on funerals here people have gone out and lined the route, self-distancing, as a mark of respect as the cortege drove past or have stood outside the church or crematorium.

The limit on numbers is in the church or chapel.

Alegrias1 Thu 15-Apr-21 12:29:15

Just in case anyone thought it would be a few Able Seamen in facemasks.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9470243/Soldiers-carry-rehearsal-drills-ahead-Prince-Philips-funeral.html

(Sorry, Mail again grin)

Anyway, I liked your suggestion trisher. I've thought that about a lot of events at the moment, that they should be very low key so that when we look back in 5 years, or whatever, we are reminded that this is a historic time.

Kamiso Thu 15-Apr-21 12:10:30

Pittcity

The Royal Navy have published photos of part of the funeral rehearsal. Social distancing and masks. These sailors would've been tested and living as a bubble for a while too.

Pittcity. You are spoiling the ranters big opportunity to take a swipe at HM and her family!

Letting facts and truth intervene will not go down well!

vampirequeen Thu 15-Apr-21 11:55:06

It seems we have a different definition of no fuss grin

Pittcity Thu 15-Apr-21 11:33:01

The Royal Navy have published photos of part of the funeral rehearsal. Social distancing and masks. These sailors would've been tested and living as a bubble for a while too.

Greyduster Thu 15-Apr-21 11:07:50

Didn't PP say he wanted a no fuss funeral. Seems to me that 750 military personnel including marching bands is a heck of a lot of fuss. Not exactly following his wishes is it?. Compared to a full state funeral, 750 military personnel is a no fuss funeral!

trisher Thu 15-Apr-21 10:22:13

GrannyGravy13

People are legally allowed to work

Military marching bands marching = their work

Yes but the guidelines say that you should take all precautions necessary at work- so social distancing, masks etc.
It would have been possible to reduce the number of military personnel involved and have them marching whilst observing these precautions. A military band isn't necessary either. Just think how much more impressive and a reflection of the times this would have been if perhaps 3 or 4 pipers had led the procession all socially distanced. And the messgae sent out to the general public would have been so much better. As it is many will look and see a crowd of military people and think if it's OK for them it's OK for me.

Greyduster Thu 15-Apr-21 10:15:40

I shouldn’t think there will be a lot of “matching about” Going on. I expect if there is a route lining military contingent, they will, under normal pre pandemic rules be three feet apart anyway. They will probably be a bit wider apart on Saturday. All personnel taking part will have been tested for Covid. Scaled down or not, it will be a most moving occasion for all concerned.

Ellianne Thu 15-Apr-21 10:08:52

grin
Yep.

suziewoozie Thu 15-Apr-21 10:07:09

vampirequeen

Didn't PP say he wanted a no fuss funeral. Seems to me that 750 military personnel including marching bands is a heck of a lot of fuss. Not exactly following his wishes is it?

When PP says ‘no fuss’ I don’t quite think it means the same as when our granddad says it.

vampirequeen Thu 15-Apr-21 10:05:31

Didn't PP say he wanted a no fuss funeral. Seems to me that 750 military personnel including marching bands is a heck of a lot of fuss. Not exactly following his wishes is it?