Mr Johnson and Mr Cummings

Only in response to your dead cat, GG13.

Try my post at 14. something... It was just about possible alternatives for Johnson and the billionaire reference was just a passing snidey comment, not a topic for debate.

It was your post at 14.45 that introduced millionaires. First reference on this thread... and a dead cat...

Whitewavemark2

Both BBC and ITV are reporting as fact that Johnson was happy to see bodies piling high in order to avoid lockdown.

I have noticed that, but until these sources are willing to be named, and their stories corroborated, they are just that stories It would also be interesting to know of the conversation taking place, those who were present and in what context the phrase was used.

he went to Winchester college?

I've just been reading this long thread. Many of us have got carried away, but Lemongrove, I think your post of ten minutes ago should be withdrawn.

I am sure Richi Sunak has been hardworking and clever. He may, unlike his boss have done everything above board. That is not the point. Why not ask Urmstongran why she was trying to paint him as someone who had not have a very priviledge upbringing?

It is perfectly possible that someone who was brought up by a single Mum on a council estate and who left St.Bogstandard Comp with 3 GCSE’s could go on to do well even though they didn't have the priviledge the snobbery of Conservatives demands.

Both BBC and ITV are reporting as fact that Johnson was happy to see bodies piling high in order to avoid lockdown.

Rishi Sunak would have my vote if there were to be a Conservative party leadership election.

MaizieD your post of 15.03 does mention millionaires.

I have no need to use a dead cat your words not mine as nothing has been proven, it’s all allegations, supposition and tales.

When/if things are proven correct measures should be taken.

What an intelligent and well educated man Sunak is! Does the fact that he is wealthy bother some people? Better get a Chancellor Of The Exchequer who was brought up by a single Mum on a council estate and who left St.Bogstandard Comp with 3 GCSE’s next time round.
Wealth or lack of it should never matter, but intelligence and education should, for a position of high office.

JaneJudge

I have visions of him now recording the charts off the radio to listen to in his vauxhall cavalier on the way to work and I bet he's made a cassette sleeve from smash hits magazine as he looks the sort who would.

This made me laugh Jane? reminded me of Gene Hunt in
Life On Mars / Ashes To Ashes.Tapes!?

GrannyGravy13

I wasn’t referring to a post by you MaizieD just asking a general question.

A dead cat, in view of the fact that no-one on this thread had mentioned millionaires

I was right

He didn’t declare many of his wife’s financial interests when he should have done, did he?

Urmstongran

Sunak married into a billionaire family. His mother worked for the NHS as a pharmacist.

So let's put right your attempt to paint Sunak as a regular sort of guy. His mother, who was indeed a pharmacist owned and ran a local chemist shop. His father was a GP. This enabled them to educate Sunak at Winchester College.

He read philosophy, politics and economics (PPE) at Lincoln College, Oxford, and later gained an MBA from Stanford University as a Fulbright Scholar.

His subsequent career began at the investment bank, Goldman Sachs. He then progressed to working in the hedge fund sector and eventually launched his firm called Theleme Partners in 2010. His firm had an initial fund of £557m ($700m). The current Chancellor has been dubbed the “Maharaja of the Dales”, and is thought to be the richest person in the House of Commons.

Together with his wife, they own an impressive international property portfolio including a five-bedroom house in London and a Georgian mansion. In total, the Sunak couple is thought to own property worth more than £10m. The Chancellor was also a director of Catamaran Ventures, owned by his father-in-law.

This

growstuff unproven allegations, not much different from tell-tales.

I wonder if it’s a new political tactic. To do so many things at any one time that none of it sticks. A tsunami of wrongdoings by a group of snolygosters....

PS. Many of the allegations aren't just "tell-tales".

GrannyGravy13

If Mr.Johnson is found by an enquiry or a court of law to have acted illegally then he should be sanctioned or even jailed.

Until that time it is just speculation and unsubstantiated tell-tales

This is not a vote of support for all his actions by the way, but it is the way UK Justice system works.

Have you seriously never met anybody with the morals of the gutter who has somehow managed to evade justice? The Law is not infallible.

PS. I learnt a new word today ... snollygoster.

I wasn’t referring to a post by you MaizieD just asking a general question.

GrannyGravy13

If it is meaningless why is the phrase millionaire used with disdain when referring to any Conservative whether they be an MP, party member or a voter?

It wasn't used by me, GG13. Unless my fingers refused to obey me, I typed 'billionaire Rishi'. It was you who brought up the matter of 'millionaires'.

I don't use the word with disdain because I am absolutely aware that it is commonplace these days with property values being so inflated. If we lived in the south our property would be worth 2 or 3 times what it is now and put us in that bracket.

If Mr.Johnson is found by an enquiry or a court of law to have acted illegally then he should be sanctioned or even jailed.

Until that time it is just speculation and unsubstantiated tell-tales

This is not a vote of support for all his actions by the way, but it is the way UK Justice system works.

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Whitewavemark2

While we are at it, did Johnson ever declare who paid for his holiday in Mustique?

A mystic?

While we are at it, did Johnson ever declare who paid for his holiday in Mustique?

Ironically Urmstongran you voted against the organisation which provided more finance for the deprived areas of the UK than any Tory government ever will.