Anyone understand why Johnson is so far ahead in the polls?

Latest news from Scotland. SNP have 36 seats. Lib Dems 4, Con 3 and Labour 1. Con have lost 2 seats to the SNP. One of them, Davidson's old seat. Willie Rennie absolutely chuffed at getting something like 3% of the available seats. Will probably change quite a bit tomorrow when the list seats are allocated but SNP currently on about 50% of the total vote.

In England, you'll get what you vote for. Despite what the Brexiters would have you believe, most of us think you go with the vote as cast and the electorate clearly want the Tories. Good luck, you'll need it. Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out. Anyone feeling homeless, up you come. Freedom come all ye. I'll put the kettle on.

Right, on you go with the triumphalism and story telling. Fill your boots. Enjoy it while you can.

I think that some of you are missing the point though in being triumphant - you are talking about England. Meanwhile, with Scotland voting the way it is, Northern Ireland being seriously neglected by the government, and Wales remaining Labour, what will the UK be - or don’t we count out on the peripheries?

MayBee70

Urmstongran

Now why on earth would we want to be Australia or NZ MayBee? Complete shut down, no one in or out. Totally rubbish vaccine roll out?

No thanks.

Coming from someone who supported Trump....

Not true none in or out - facts facts facts - such a nuisance

Urmstongran, Merylstreep and M0nica unfortunately this appears to be true.

Urmstongran, they would never admit it, not even to themselves, but yes I totally agree, they would sacrifice the country to prove a point.

True MerylStreep.
It’s almost as though, to prove a political point, some posters would like the UK to fail. Just to be able to say ‘I told you so’.
Terribly sad really.

Urmstongran
But ‘some’ posters will demand that you listen to Andrew Bailey ‘if’ he predicts gloom and doom ?

Only for illegal immigrants MayBee.
Everyone else is more than welcome in my opinion, through the proper channels and with correct paperwork.
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Urmstongran

Now why on earth would we want to be Australia or NZ MayBee? Complete shut down, no one in or out. Totally rubbish vaccine roll out?

No thanks.

Coming from someone who supported Trump....

Urmstongran

I know what you mean GG13! A few months ago we were lambasted on here for dissing the experts and now we quote them we are still in the wrong.
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Couldn’t make it up ?

I know what you mean GG13! A few months ago we were lambasted on here for dissing the experts and now we quote them we are still in the wrong.
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Now why on earth would we want to be Australia or NZ MayBee? Complete shut down, no one in or out. Totally rubbish vaccine roll out?

No thanks.

Urmstongran

MaizieD so you disagree then with Andrew Bailey, Governor of the BoE? His forecast is diametrically opposed to yours it seems.
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I am beginning to lose the will to even bother posting on these threads, as so many folks seem to know better than the experts.

MaizieD so you disagree then with Andrew Bailey, Governor of the BoE? His forecast is diametrically opposed to yours it seems.
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The lockdowns were a result of a government who was so focussed on getting brexit done he failed to notice there was the beginning of a pandemic in China. We could have been NZ or Australia but, instead we have one of the highest death rates in the world. And now all people seem to care about is whether or not they can go abroad for their holidays. I think I’m done with politics, at least for a while.

Maizie I give up. All those surveys of people talking about how much they have saved and what they are going to spend it on. The economic surveys talking about bounce back growth of 7.5% this yeat.

Articles in the papers today saying that job vacancies are growing but there are not enough applicants. Certain parts of the economy; hospitality, tourism, travel have suffered very badly during the pandemic, but most people have been working through this period, either at home or in factories, supermarkets, warehouses, distribution, hospitals, all sorts of jobs and, while retail is failing, supermarkets are expanding employment.

I really appreciate how much you want everything to fail, although that is rather unfair on those that will suffer as a result, but, while I doubt a boom, I just do not see a recession on the horizon.

The lockdowns were caused by the Pandemic.

Brexit was caused by the electorate.

M0nica

*Dinhmo*, but Boris will get the kudos for the increase - it happened on his watch as did last year's fall.

The rights and wrongs of this are irrelevant, people will be back in work, others have money that they have not spent during lockdown and can now use. There will be a general positive mood about life improving. Remember sentiment is always there and is always illogical and this positive sentiment will be associated with the government.

It is what people think and feel that matters, not the deep economic analysis.

I'm just wondering about all the people whose jobs will be lost from businesses closing down because they just couldn't survive the lockdowns, and those who will lose their jobs from businesses closing down because Brexit has seriously impaired their trade with the EU.

I don't think they'll go on a spending bonanza. I think it's a bit overoptimistic to expect the economy to boom...

Then, of course, Sunak will introduce austerity measures to supposedly recoup the money the UK has supposedly 'borrowed' to pay for supporting businesses through the lockdowns and to pay for the bonanza of contracts to tory crones and donors for vast amounts of unusable PPE..

Nanagee7 Many of us are in total agreement with you and have said that, but you try and convince the many enthusiastic Labour supporters on this thread, and there are many, that this is so.

Can't believe this question is being asked, the answer is easy, because unfortunately there is no viable opposition. The electorate deserve better.

Interesting results in the South East.

Well it looks like I am getting my first wish. Got totally rid of Labour. Next GE I am hoping it is between the Cons and Reclaim. Reclaim for me! To me the choice yesterday was vote for the man who hits you onec day or the man who hits you twice. Obviously I voted for the Cons.

M0nica I know. Sad isn't it.

Dinhmo, but Boris will get the kudos for the increase - it happened on his watch as did last year's fall.

The rights and wrongs of this are irrelevant, people will be back in work, others have money that they have not spent during lockdown and can now use. There will be a general positive mood about life improving. Remember sentiment is always there and is always illogical and this positive sentiment will be associated with the government.

It is what people think and feel that matters, not the deep economic analysis.

Urmstongran

Another reason Boris & the Tories are riding high:

BANK of England Governor Andrew Bailey has hailed the fastest recovery in modern times as Britain surges back from the worst recession in more than three centuries.

The Bank is predicting a 7.25pc jump in growth this year, well ahead of the 5pc it forecast three months ago and the biggest rise since the height of the war effort in 1941.

Mr Bailey said: “I don’t think we’ve had a bounceback quite of this nature, certainly in modern times.”

The success of the UK’s vaccination programme, the extension of the furlough scheme until September and Budget measures such as the Chancellor’s “super-deduction” tax break on investment have limited the economic scarring from Covid, the Bank added.

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You seem to have forgotten that there was a 10% drop in 2020 - the worst decline for more than 3 centuries. It's good that the economy is improving but it's nothing to do with the Tories. It's because of pent up demand. So it's not surprising the size of the bounce back, given the size of the decline.