Royalist is our post-Brexit religion

GrannyRose15

An independent Scotland would still have the Queen as head of state. She's our Queen too. You know, like Australia, Canada....

The complete lack of understanding of constitutional matters on here is quite worrying.

Would a prime minister be a separate entity from a president or one and the same? The French Rev lot had the right idea but you can’t do things like that these days.

A president would have to be political neutral unlike the monarchy who has a veto on our laws.

I think you have this the wrong way round.

Witzend

Whenever I’ve gone through Republican moments I’ve been cured by thinking of Tony Blair as President, with Cherie as First Lady.

Thanks exactly what I think of too.

However much we say it won't be the case, the only choice for president will be a has-been politician.

Britain unfortunately does not have any statemen to take on the role.

Alegrias1

Hope springs eternal Grany. One day!

Well you won't need to worry will you, or is an independent Scotland going to adopt a monarch?

I just think that if we hadn’t had royal families we wouldn’t have castles and stately homes and lovely National trust properties to visit.

She assumes that Royalist means Tory politics means voting for Brexit. Where is the evidence for these? I know Conservative voters who voted to remain in the EU and Royalists who do not vote Conservative. In fact I suspect that the Queen's most enthusiastic voters do not, or rather did not vote Conservative.

Equally not being a republican does not mean being a Royalist, within her definition of Royalism.

I used to be a great admirer of Yasmin Alabi (?) Brown, but in the last couple of years she has lost her sense of balance and ability to look at the wider view. It is sad to see a writer you much admired start to decline.

Whenever I’ve gone through Republican moments I’ve been cured by thinking of Tony Blair as President, with Cherie as First Lady.

If we had an elected head of state might we not (heaven forbid) end up with someone like Farage?

Gannygangan

When I was young I didn't care about the Royals. No interest at all. Most of my peers would have felt the same.

However, now I'm getting on a bit I'm quite happy to have a monarchy.

The young are starting to see what the reality is and things are changing.

Just what I would have said in my late teens, early 20s, Alegrias1

The young Aleg are far more interested in texting each other, watching tv, reading blogs by airhead celebs, clothes shopping, eating take aways and screaming with laughter down their mobile phones at what their friends say.
And who can blame them??

I always thought that you were a UK resident Grany as you were/are so fond of Jeremy Corbyn.

I will say this again. A president would cost a fraction of the monarchy which stands at £345 million and rising. But it's not just the cost it's the principle.

A president would have to be political neutral unlike the monarchy who has a veto on our laws.

Something like the president in Ireland or

Or like our Bundes President here in Germany. A very well respected figure head, whose sole purpose is to welcome foreign heads of state, represent Germany abroad and sign his/her name on bills which have passed both houses. The only difference between Michael D. Higgins and our president, Frank-Walther Steinmaier, is that MDH was elected by the electorate, whereas Steinmaier was nominated by and elected by our elected representatives in the Bundestag. The roles are the same though and both do an excellent job, IMO. The fact that they have limited terms of office is a good thing too. The Monarchie in the UK is a waste of space and money and is an anachronism in the 21st century.

Princess Margaret!!

I must have been about 6 or 7.

Now I'm a bit older I do not have rose tinted spectacles but a more reasoned view of of the world and the cost effectiveness and stability of a Monarchy -v- an ever changing and possibly
politically-biased head of state.

When I was very young I made a Princess Elizabeth and Pricess Margaret scrapbook.

Now I'm more mature I appreciate the relative stability of a Monarchy as Head of State and the continuity of the thread through the centuries, but I wish all the various superfluous parts of it would just disappear into the sunset and shut up.

When I was young I didn't care about the Royals. No interest at all. Most of my peers would have felt the same.

However, now I'm getting on a bit I'm quite happy to have a monarchy.

The young are starting to see what the reality is and things are changing.

Just what I would have said in my late teens, early 20s, Alegrias1

I wouldn't pin my hopes to that Smileless2012.

A YouGov survey indicates that at least 41 per cent of people aged 18 to 24 preferred an elected head of the state as compared to 31 who wanted a king or a queen.

This is, in fact, a complete reversal of what the majority wanted two years ago. Back then, the survey had found that at least 46 per cent preferred the monarchy and only 26 per cent wanted it gone.

The YouGov survey of 4,870 adults – between the ages of 15 to 49 — also revealed that at least 53 per cent supported the monarchy. This is five percentage points down from a similar survey in 2019.

It's trends, not absolutes that are important here. The young are starting to see what the reality is and things are changing.

With 53% of those aged 15 - 49 supporting the monarchy, it's unlikely to happen.

I do enjoy her articles mostly.

But this one is a load of piffle or perhaps it's just that no-one I know relates to these views.

Hope springs eternal Grany. One day!

@tompeck
We could just, like, not have the royal family you know. Then we wouldn’t have to have all this absolute madness all the time. It is an option. Just putting it out there.

@keith091270
Maybe the concept of one family being the peak of British society isn’t fit for purpose. Maybe that’s the problem.

Young British people want to abolish the monarchy in dramatic shift of public opinion, survey shows

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/british-abolish-monarchy-survey-queen-b1851243.html

I like Yasmin. Some things I've agreed with some I haven't but it's never put me off the woman whatever her views are.

However, * Annie* summed this up for me. People really do need something to think and worry about !

nonplussed

I’m a bit non pluses by the connection with Brexit and religion.

Was European membership a religion?

What’s it called in literature when you link two entirely unconnected things to make an oddity?

Is that the lady that was often on the panel of Jeremy Vine? she
was often vocal on some of the discussions on his show and things at times became heated. I stopped watching that show now it was always about Covid. Yasmin is welcome to her opinions which are not shared by everyone else including myself.

Your post certainly puts things into perspective Annie.