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Royalist is our post-Brexit religion

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Blossoming Fri 21-May-21 11:19:25

Other viewpoints are available.

inews.co.uk/opinion/meghan-harry-mental-health-series-vicious-response-royalism-post-brexit-religion-1007433

Grany Sat 22-May-21 19:34:40

Peasblossom

Do you think it’s possible to get a non-partisan Head of State? I mean everyone has a viewpoint. I can’t actually think of anyone in the public arena that I’d want at present.

How about countries like the USA where the Head of State and President are one? Does that work do you think. I admit I get confused between the President and the Prime Minister in countries like France. It would save even more money than two Offices.

I’m also greatly put off by obscene amounts of money being spent on Presidential elections and all the razzmatazz that turns it into a show biz event or the ‘influencing’ that goes on in some elections - monetary and violence.

Where does it work well, do you think?

Im ambivalent about the current role of the Monarchy and certainly about the “Family” aspect of it and the way it’s become a media /celebrity thing.

On the other hand, if it was mostly a ceremonial role, the Palace is very good at that. I wouldn’t like someone as rude and dismissive as Trump to represent me.

Do you think it’s possible to get a non-partisan Head of State? I mean everyone has a viewpoint. I can’t actually think of anyone in the public arena that I’d want at present. Yes it has to be, written in law.

How about countries like the USA where the Head of State and President are one? Does that work do you think. I admit I get confused between the President and the Prime Minister in countries like France. It would save even more money than two Offices.
USA has a written constitution and it works well. We have a Head of State the monarchy So will have a president who will have limited role and have checks and balances on government A president would just need an office and official residence. Not like the 19 homes of RF we have to pay for with around the clock security.

I’m also greatly put off by obscene amounts of money being spent on Presidential elections and all the razzmatazz that turns it into a show biz event or the ‘influencing’ that goes on in some elections - monetary and violence. It would be a straight forward election that people could vote in. Would not cost a lot and no razzmatazz

Where does it work well, do you think? Ireland.

Im ambivalent about the current role of the Monarchy and certainly about the “Family” aspect of it and the way it’s become a media /celebrity thing. Agree.

On the other hand, if it was mostly a ceremonial role, the Palace is very good at that. I wouldn’t like someone as rude and dismissive as Trump to represent me. There would be a limited role for the U.K. President written in law and doing what the queen is unable to do.

Alegrias1 Sat 22-May-21 19:36:17

GrannyRose15

^Constitutional Monarchy will be the system in any future independent Scotland.^

How do you know this for sure?

Becuase a change in the system of government was not on the ballot in 2014. There is no suggestion that it would be in any future referendum on independence.

There is probably as much support for a republic in Scotland as there is in any other part of the UK. It would be absolutely counter-productive to try to tie independence to becoming a republic, it's too big a step.

However I did say "For a while at least".

Savvy Sat 22-May-21 19:38:35

I must admit I've no time for the RF, never liked them even as a kid and I'm really uncomfortable with the fact that they don't even have the freedom to choose their own religion, its Church of England, full stop.

In the 21st century should this really be tollerated? Surely religious freedom is a right.

M0nica Sat 22-May-21 21:51:49

Various members of the RF have stepped out of the line of succession because they either changed their religion or married Roman Catholics.

There is nothing to stop them doing it. If a monarch or heir/ess did they would probably do the same and just be replaced by the next in line who was happy with being Cof E.

I am indiferent on this subject but have always felt that if something works, do not try and fix it, what usually happens is that thewhole system is thrown in turmoil and you end up with something far worse than you already had.

If the current family are happy to accept all the restrictions and continue in the job. let them stay. They have shown themselves to be as human as the rest of us and suffer all the problems that other families have. Being royal has not protected them from divorce and messy acrimonious family breakdowns, estrangements, and many other problems that humankind suffers.

Galaxy Sat 22-May-21 21:55:35

The current family look anything but happy to me. It looks like a never ending car crash.

Callistemon Sat 22-May-21 21:55:56

GrannyRose15

^Constitutional Monarchy will be the system in any future independent Scotland.^

How do you know this for sure?

She/he might not want to.
Don't take her (or him) to for granted,

GrannyRose15 Tue 25-May-21 00:01:38

Callistemon

I too think there may be some things that turn out to be not as clear as they first appear.

Alegrias1 Tue 25-May-21 11:11:37

Callistemon

GrannyRose15

Constitutional Monarchy will be the system in any future independent Scotland.

How do you know this for sure?

She/he might not want to.
Don't take her (or him) to for granted,

S/he might not want to do lots of things, such is the nature of hereditary monarchy, but as the monarch of all countries in the UK s/he would be the monarch of an independent Scotland.

I think any suggestion that s/he might abandon a country which they have historically been monarch of, simply because they have decided to have their own Parliament, is a bit far fetched.

Any precedents?

Grany Tue 25-May-21 13:22:48

There seems to be a distinct lack of crowds for the feudal tour of Scotland. Anyone got photos of the disinterest ?

@UnRoyalReporter

@KensingtonRoyal
twosome are always “learning about” & “hearing” on their sanitised visits to various projects.

William puts on his concerned face.

They grasp nothing.

They embody the establishment

They pose for photos then fuck off 20 mins later.
#RoyalVisitScotland