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Should there be apologies made for adoptions

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maddyone Wed 26-May-21 19:02:22

I’m just wondering what other Gransnetters think about this. It has been on BBC news for two consecutive days about the government apologising to the mothers of children who were adopted in the past, and apologising to the children who were adopted. I’m feeling a bit puzzled about this because it seems to me that a government of today apologising about this would be somewhat meaningless since no one in government today is responsible for the attitudes of yesterday which were widespread across society. Maybe apologies by the adoption societies would be more fitting, or from the organisers of Mother and Baby Homes, or even from the parents themselves who frequently forced their daughters to give up their babies.
What do others think?

Anniebach Fri 28-May-21 09:47:13

Sorry sodapop , yes I did the research for our local history group, when I checked where these poor women had lived before being in the hospital, they were all from families who had ‘a position’ in their village/town, not one from ‘the working classes’.

Again a case of ‘what will the neighbours say’.

henetha Fri 28-May-21 10:39:44

Thank you theworriedwell. It was fairly successful but with lots of problems.

sodapop Fri 28-May-21 12:30:42

Anniebach it always bugged me at that time and even now how men were regarded as Jack the lad. Those poor women lost their children and were locked away for decades whilst the men went on their merry way impregnating whoever they chose to. Man definitely was king then.

Galaxy Fri 28-May-21 12:49:14

The majority of single parents today are women so there is still an element of that. The consequences are not as devastating obviously but it is still women who face the consequences.

mokryna Fri 28-May-21 13:08:27

I was past to family member to children’s home to being fostered and adopted. I had friends in the 60s who had one of the first legal abortions and another whose parents allowed her to keep her baby. Women are nearly always blamed whatever happens to their bodies. Single or in a partnership they are more often than not left holding the baby.
Governments cannot apologize for what happened in the past, they can however let women choose what they want to do with their bodies these days.
I sadly look at what is happening now in the USA, how unfortunate girls/women will be forced to have unwanted babies. True they will not have them snatched but their lives will be changed forever.

Yammy Fri 28-May-21 14:39:31

M0nica

Ilovecheese that is exactly what I was thinking. It would be the parents first and foremost putting on the adoption pressure the other authorities would have seen themselves as supporting the parents decision.

I agree with MOnica. Three girls got pregnant in the 5th year at school. One lost her baby through corseting herself in and did not tell her parents until she was in very dangerous labour.
Two were sent to mother and baby homes. All three girls boyfriends stood by them but were deemed too young. One lost her baby and eventually the boyfriend, the other was brought home without the baby but her parents went for it when they saw how distraught she was, she waited a few years and married the father had more children and they are still together 50 years on.
Parental attitude played a big part. let's not forget the parents of the boy involved where were they when decisions were made in how these girls were tret.
The poor woman on T.V. saying she gave the baby away her mother was waiting downstairs and they went shopping.
I also have a friend who got pregnant in the 6th form She married the father and they went to uni together her parents looked after the baby until they had the means to do so.

theworriedwell Fri 28-May-21 16:40:37

sodapop

Anniebach it always bugged me at that time and even now how men were regarded as Jack the lad. Those poor women lost their children and were locked away for decades whilst the men went on their merry way impregnating whoever they chose to. Man definitely was king then.

I remember a few from the 60s/70s where there was a "shot gun" wedding. Not all the young men went on their merry way. Some were trapped, as were their wives, in loveless marriages to avoid embarrassing the families.

silverlining48 Fri 28-May-21 17:27:57

Oh yes shotgun weddings...that’s a blast from the past.

Anniebach Fri 28-May-21 17:55:30

From that time

1. They had to get married

2. She got herself pregnant

maddyone Fri 28-May-21 18:39:16

I’m glad I started this thread. Thank you to everyone who has contributed to it, it has made very interesting reading to see everyone’s different views. I still don’t really know what I think about a government apology because I can see both sides having read all your contributions.