Please can someone reminds us what WTO would mean for UK

Prices would go up.

Tariffs.

We along with one other country in the entire world would be the only full time members.

It won’t happen

Exactly....it won’t happen.

So, what then? If the UK refuses to adhere to the Deal they have negotiated and signed up to- and the EU insists that they do (quite rightly)

No Deal?

No Johnson will cave in. He has too as he is being pressured by Biden..

No deal = no USA trade agreement.

Brexit ensured that we can be pushed around and pressurised by everyone except very small countries.

Both Johnson and the EU will be pressured by Biden.
Therefore something, on both sides will have to give.

No, we can’t be pushed around ww with the exception of the US ( who push everybody around.)

Who is pushing anyone around? Johnson has negotiated a Deal, he knew exactly what this Deal meant, but very dishonestly thought he could sign and then go back on the Deal. He is trying to push around the EU- and the EU, totally fairly, will not let him. Simple enough. So, what then?

Kali2

Who is pushing anyone around? Johnson has negotiated a Deal, he knew exactly what this Deal meant, but very dishonestly thought he could sign and then go back on the Deal. He is trying to push around the EU- and the EU, totally fairly, will not let him. Simple enough. So, what then?

Another side to the story for those who care to read it
uk.newschant.com/politics/the-imperial-eu-is-blind-to-the-folly-of-its-unequal-northern-ireland-brexit-treaty/ I must admit as have always thought of the EU as such.

lemongrove

Exactly....it won’t happen.

Well it was Urmstongran who suggested it could happen.

So which will it be?

WTO or No Deal - or the UK will have to adhere to the Deal they have negotiated and signes up to, in the full knowledge that NI was going to be a major issue.

The 4th option is just not on the table, the EU won't budge.

Lin52

Kali2

Who is pushing anyone around? Johnson has negotiated a Deal, he knew exactly what this Deal meant, but very dishonestly thought he could sign and then go back on the Deal. He is trying to push around the EU- and the EU, totally fairly, will not let him. Simple enough. So, what then?

Another side to the story for those who care to read it
uk.newschant.com/politics/the-imperial-eu-is-blind-to-the-folly-of-its-unequal-northern-ireland-brexit-treaty/ I must admit as have always thought of the EU as such.

I suppose an Indian publication might know better than the USA President, Europe and the majority of opinion in the U.K.

I’m willing to be open minded ?

The transtition period will soon be over, so we should know fairly soon. I also thin Biden will make things crystal clear about having to respect the GFA and the Deal.

If Biden has to make a choice between a Deal with EU or a Deal with UK, we truly think he would choose UK?

Biden has been warning Johnson since before he was elected as president.

If Johnson doesn’t comply, a trade deal will never get through Congress. Both sides will ensure that.

I didn’t vote to be pushed around did you?

WTO rules would require a hard border between NI and Republic of Ireland too.

Kali2

WTO rules would require a hard border between NI and Republic of Ireland too.

?

I am not ashamed to say that since Urmstongran's post, I have had to go back and look for links and do some reading ro remind myself.

In case anyone is interested- here is one of them that looks at the question very carefully

ukandeu.ac.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/What-would-trading-on-WTO-terms-mean.pdf

But I do think we all need a bit of fun and laughter- this is so so funny ... and all predicted long ago

youtu.be/OzeDZtx3wUw

And of course

fb.watch/626O4kT169/

lemongrove

Exactly....it won’t happen.

In the current circumstances, I'd really like to hear your rationale for your comment. Why will it not happen, if Johnson reneges on the Agreement negotiated and signed? Please.

Kali2

But I do think we all need a bit of fun and laughter- this is so so funny ... and all predicted long ago

youtu.be/OzeDZtx3wUw

Very good. Thanks.