Covid vaccinations to be made compulsory for care home staff

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57481895

Not just care homes.
GrannyGravy13 in France children cannot attend school unless they provide proof of 11 vaccinations.

Are you an idiot Matt Hancock?

'I don't think so!'

Jaxjacky

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57481895

Not just care homes.
GrannyGravy13 in France children cannot attend school unless they provide proof of 11 vaccinations.

Yes I know, many Countries insist on children to be vaccinated as a condition of them starting school.

As an ex Serviceman I find this utterly amusing.
On the day after I signed on and also signed the official secrets act we were all lined up. “Left arm, right arm, touch your toes”. I have no idea exactly how many ‘jabs’ we had that day, at least two in each arm and I think four in the buttocks, but no one questioned it, argued or complained. As usual with the RN, it was “if you can’t take a joke you shouldn't have joined”. We live in a right nanby pamby world now, don’t we!? And not one iota for the better either

There's always going to be cares who won't want it because they don't like being told they have to do something, some carers who think they'll let everyone else take the plunge get the vaccination and be covered that way ? the only ones l feel for are carers with a medical reason for not wanting to be vaccinated, the rest should lose their jobs imo if they're not willing to put the needs of those they care for first

Oh dear.

There are several mentions on here if people who can’t have the jab for medical reasons.
Can anyone give me examples ?

the people I know of who haven't had it have got BADLY impaired immune systems or a record of randomly reacting badly to stuff and in both cases they are generally frail and have taken specialist medical advice..I also know of a couple of people who had bad reactions to the first jab and were advised not to have a second. No anaphyllaxis. None of them are well enough to work at anything.

Lucca, there are people who have a history of anaphylactic reactions with vaccines - it is contra-indicated for them to be vaccinated, as it could be potentially fatal.

There are also certain vaccine-specific contra-indications for specific vaccines (e.g. SCID - Severe Combined Immuno-deficiency is a contra-indication for the rotavirus vaccine; Encephalopathy occurring within 7 days of the pertussis vaccine is a contra-indication for further doses. Pertussis is whooping cough).

Alegrias1, I have inboxed you.

I'm really not comfortable with legislating over vaccine acceptance. The reality is that no one knows what the vaccine reaction over the longer term. It is possible that it will have a negative impact on all sorts of people. The other question that I have is what about the few people who have very serious reactions to the vaccines, are they guaranteed pay during any period that they are unable to work?

That said, I was a shielder, so extremely high risk if I caught Covid. I have had both doses of the vaccine, with no bad side effects, but remain concerned that I could react in the future, we simply don't know what the impact is......remember thalidomide?

Why oh why are you uneasy about this?

So don’t work with vulnerable people. A bit like the ‘exempt’ from masks in UK,unknown elsewhere in Europe

No! Paranoia

greenlady102

the people I know of who haven't had it have got BADLY impaired immune systems or a record of randomly reacting badly to stuff and in both cases they are generally frail and have taken specialist medical advice..I also know of a couple of people who had bad reactions to the first jab and were advised not to have a second. No anaphyllaxis. None of them are well enough to work at anything.

They really need the rest of us to have it to help protect them don't they.

JaneJudge

^Are you an idiot Matt Hancock?^

'I don't think so!'

Bless him, he shouldn't be out on his own should he.

Stephania1954

I work in a care home. Most staff have been vaccinated but we have a group of staff who have not. These are mostly Eastern Europeans ( Poles, Lithuanian and Romanians) but also young girls and a few others who are I think attention seekers.
The rest of the staff are not happy with them not being vaccinated and would rather not work with them.
Not only are they risking the residents but other staff and families.
They also tried ( unsuccessfully) to avoid the twice weekly testing.
I and the rest of the vaccinated staff would like to see COVID vaccination compulsory and see what happens to the staff who have refused to be vaccinated. Some will make a stand and say the government is trying to keep tabs on everyone via some device in the jab ( this is the Eastern European stance) and they might leave, the young girls ( who have heard about fertility issues) will be reassured and the time wasters well who cares about them.

The home I work in is 100% vaccinated, residents, staff, manager, owner. Everyone wanted it, we were one of the last homes to get it so maybe we just got more and more anxious to get it because we thought we were missing out. Maybe that's the answer.

I'm very pro vaccine, got mine before the people I work with as DHs carer, but I do worry about this as recruitment of staff isn't easy and staff shortage are common.

theworriedwell

greenlady102

the people I know of who haven't had it have got BADLY impaired immune systems or a record of randomly reacting badly to stuff and in both cases they are generally frail and have taken specialist medical advice..I also know of a couple of people who had bad reactions to the first jab and were advised not to have a second. No anaphyllaxis. None of them are well enough to work at anything.

They really need the rest of us to have it to help protect them don't they.

well that's my view definitely

I know of a couple of people who can't have the jab. My friend can't cos she has terminal breast cancer and has just had some chemo to try to give her a little more time and another guy I know can't have his 2nd until his doctor looks into it cos he had an anaphylactic shock after the first. If someone is able to have it we have seriously think to do it, it may help others who can't.

I have 2 extremely rare and incurable auto immune illnesses and take immunosuppression medication and steroids to attempt to control them, and I had to shield for the 3-4 months from March to July 2020. I had in depth conversations with my consultants regarding the covid vaccine and it was decided that the risk of covid for me far outweighed the risk of taking the vaccine. I have had both doses of the AZ vaccine and the first made me poorly for around 4 days but the 2nd produced no side effects whatsoever.

I'm 57 and cannot afford not to work (10 years to pension age), I cannot work from home and my employer is doing everything possible to keep me safe at work which I am grateful for, my work colleagues are all very supportive too and all have had their vaccines as they became available.

I dont know how anyone could think this pandemic is not real and why taking a vaccine that millions of people have taken with no issues is such a problem. I wonder how many decide they are not having the vaccine but then change their mind when it suits them for the need to holiday abroad. Very selfish attitude to be honest I think.

We all have our opinions and need to be kind. Those that are against the vaccine .. if you contracted covid and indirectly caused the death of a loved one would you still believe you did the right thing with no guilt?!

And maybe answer the questions politely asked by many posters about where you got your information from too, it's not much to ask is it?

It seems common sense to me that those working with vulnerable and health compromised people should not be allowed to pose them any extra risk. Health professionals have to have jabs such as the Hep B vaccination for other infection risks already.

In any case, no one is saying that a person has to be vaccinated against their will, just that certain, specific posts will not be available to them.

My friend has a long list of severe allergies which have resulted in anaphylaxis many times for her. She has a list of 40 substances/ingredients she must avoid.

She was still able to have both vaccinations. She attended a hospital clinic which was designated for severe allergy sufferers. She met some of the same patients when she returned for her second one and none had experienced a significant problem.

Daftbag1

I'm really not comfortable with legislating over vaccine acceptance. The reality is that no one knows what the vaccine reaction over the longer term. It is possible that it will have a negative impact on all sorts of people. The other question that I have is what about the few people who have very serious reactions to the vaccines, are they guaranteed pay during any period that they are unable to work?

That said, I was a shielder, so extremely high risk if I caught Covid. I have had both doses of the vaccine, with no bad side effects, but remain concerned that I could react in the future, we simply don't know what the impact is......remember thalidomide?

Thalidomide wasn’t a vaccine was it ?

I am working with a woman in her forties who had been advised by her doctors due to family history of blood clotting issues Lucca, both parents died of it, I think it was astral zenneca that was of particular concern but certainly as of a fortnight ago she was unvaccinated. This hopefully will be a temporary issue.

Sorry my phone always converts it to Astral

Apologies if this appears twice. Having problems posting.

Thank you Artemis Gran16 and GNW for the information