Covid vaccinations to be made compulsory for care home staff

My cousin has severe learning difficulties and in recent years also early onset dementia. After many dreadful months of care home window visits I can now visit indoors. I need to wear mask and gloves and sit 2m apart from him.

I am double vaccinated. I don’t know if all his care staff are vaccinated and can only hope so. If they are not then he is more at risk from them than me.

I worked for the NHS many years ago in a laboratory, so wasn't patient facing, but obviously had contact generally with people on the hospital site. When I started I had to have tests to check my immune status. I wasn't aware of having had Rubella. I'd had all the other childhood diseases in the days before most of the vaccines were available. It turned out I was immune, otherwise I'd have been offered the vaccine - I'm not sure if it was compulsory. I'd have been happy to have it but it wasn't necessary. I must have had it very mildly when my mother and brother had it!
I'm very pro-vaccination so I'm glad it is being made compulsory. It will be interesting to see how many anti-vaxers change their minds when vaccine passports are necessary for holidaying abroad or to partake in various leisure activities.

As care workers are generally not well paid, I wonder whether those who refuse to be jabbed should be offered a financial incentive? Perhaps a pay rise for those who've been double jabbed. After all these carers can work with all clients, whereas some clients may legitimately refuse to have contact with un-jabbed carers.

Grannynannywanny

My cousin has severe learning difficulties and in recent years also early onset dementia. After many dreadful months of care home window visits I can now visit indoors. I need to wear mask and gloves and sit 2m apart from him.

I am double vaccinated. I don’t know if all his care staff are vaccinated and can only hope so. If they are not then he is more at risk from them than me.

I know, I have felt like this throughout. I don't understand why family (at least one or two named people) cannot visit if they take the same precautions as staff have to. I imagine most family are being more careful anyway.

I imagine most family are being more careful anyway.

I agree JaneJudge. I haven’t been on public transport since the start of the pandemic, I don’t go in indoor restaurants or cafes and other than a brief grocery shopping trip I avoid shops. All in the hope of keeping my care home visits risk free for my cousin and fellow residents.

Most of the care staff are half my age. Many have to travel to work on busy buses, they have teenage children who are mixing in large unvaccinated groups. All part of their normal family life that fits in around their job. But it does cause me concern that some staff might choose to refuse vaccination which would greatly reduce their likelihood of carrying the virus into their workplace.

I don't think any woman of childbearing age should go anywhere near that junk until they've spent at a least a year researching rather than listening to Government and the BBC. Then they can make a proper informed choice.

effalump exactly, my 20yr old daughter has had her invite today. That's gone straight in the bin!

Data from one study shows that of more than 3,000 adults ages 18 to 34 who contracted COVID-19 and became sick enough to require hospital care, 21% ended up in intensive care, 10% were placed on a breathing machine and 2.7% died.

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Data from one study shows that of more than 3,000 adults ages 18 to 34 who contracted COVID-19 and became sick enough to require hospital care, 21% ended up in intensive care, 10% were placed on a breathing machine and 2.7% died.

Does the data show if any, or how many, developed long covid?

effalump

I don't think any woman of childbearing age should go anywhere near that junk until they've spent at a least a year researching rather than listening to Government and the BBC. Then they can make a proper informed choice.

Here you go: 37 million pages returned after a search for "Covid vaccination fertility". None of them the government or the BBC

Hope I have save you some time

www.google.co.uk/search?q=infertility+covid+vaccine&ei=_JbQYKvAPNTjgwfA_KeIAQ&oq=infertility+covid+vaccine&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAM6BQgAELADOgQIABANUPkWWK4cYP8haAFwAHgAgAFTiAHyA5IBATeYAQCgAQGqAQdnd3Mtd2l6yAECwAEB&sclient=gws-wiz&ved=0ahUKEwirrpef7ajxAhXU8eAKHUD-CREQ4dUDCA8&uact=5

The NHS is setting up specialist long COVID services for children and young people as part of a £100 million expansion of care for those suffering from the condition.

The 15 new paediatric hubs will draw together experts on common symptoms such as respiratory problems and fatigue who can directly treat youngsters, advise family doctors or others caring for them or refer them into other specialist services and clinics.

Some £30 million will also go to GPs to improve diagnosis and care for those with long COVID while the new investment will also boost online services.

The boost to dedicated services for young people is part of a package of investment in a range of measures to help young people and adults with long COVID, including a major focus on specialist treatment and rehab services.

Some estimates suggest that 340,000 people may need support for the condition including 68,000 who will need rehab or other specialist treatment.

www.england.nhs.uk/2021/06/nhs-sets-up-specialist-young-peoples-services-in-100-million-long-covid-care-expansion/

My pregnant daughter had her first jab last week. As an asthmatic, she reckoned the likelihood of Covid making her seriously ill was far greater than the possibility of any side effects from the jab.

My young medic daughter has been double jabbed, so she can keep her patients safe.

Good for them. SueDomin. I'm g;lad that both your daughters have been jabbed.

JenniferEccles

I am struggling to have any sympathy with those who refuse.
They must be well aware of how reassuring it would be for the residents and their families knowing that every member of staff had been vaccinated.

Well.... you should know that there are some charlatans posing as experts on sites like Telegram and they are spreading information that the covid jab will change your dna so you're not related to your family anymore and other stupid stuff like that. They are spreading convulsion videos and telling people they will get convulsions if they have it and generally saying anything they can think of to try and spread as much FEAR as possible. Their motive? CONTROL!

I don't know what is behind these groups, but know they have gone underground to try and avoid detection by the authorities. I have been targetted by someone who is in one of these groups and that's how I know.

If people are not having the jab, I guarantee they are terrified because of the videos that these evil people are inventing. They use video clips from films and mash them up with Dr's talking but they make sure they include the bits they want to include so the message is one they want to be shared.

False things I've been told would happen if I got the jab:
convulsions
death
my pineal gland would calcify
My organs would shut down
My dna would change so Id not be related to my family any more (!!!)

So these are a few of the absolutely nonsensical statements that were fed to me by someone I know who was desperately trying to convert me to the anti vax beliefs.

Honestly. They put so much fear into me that I nearly didn't have the jab AT ALL. But then I realised that everyone I knew was absolutely fine and NO ONE had any of the symptoms. I had both jabs and am absolutely fine. I tried telling this to the person who tried so hard to stop me and their only comment was "oh, that's because the protien hasn't spiked yet"

I hope no one else is being targetted like this or if you have young people in your family, do talk to them to check what they are being told online. There's some very scary stuff going round and it actually looks true- but when you talk to anyone with a medical degree you realise it's not.