Let’s be optimistic

FannyCornforth

Dinahmo I thought that all the hoo hah about baby milk was to do with it being promoted in developing countries? I thought that they were advertising it with dubious claims?

Not that I'm disagreeing with you - I'm just musing...

They were but they used different ingredients to those used in the UK etc and advertising it as being better than breast milk.

Farage ?

Chestnut thank you for your answer.
But if you think that 'you can't enjoy a news channel' you are doing something wrong!

I love listening to the Today program, likewise Nick Ferrari on LBC (hardly Owen Jones), and many more news programs (admittedly on the radio, not TV).

You ask why I don't like GBN.
If you read Urms thread about GBN, you would see that I was very much looking forward to it.

Very briefly, I don't like it because it looks very amateurish and the presenters aren't up to the job.
I've written about this on Urms thread in more detail, so I don't really feel like repeating myself.

From a televisual point of view they should have recruited Garage; Widdecombe; or Currie, for example.
At the very least, there should be people on it who know how to behave in front of a camera.

Alegrias1

Talullah

Alegrias1

Talullah

Apparently IKEA and Moneysupermarket are back advertising. If the channel succeeds I'm sure there will be more.

inews.co.uk/news/media/moneysupermarket-and-ikea-resume-advertising-on-gb-news-following-boycott-by-major-brands-1058288

They're not back advertising. They are just saying that not advertising on it doesn't mean they are boycotting it.

Well it does say they resume advertising in the headline. But who am I to doubt you!

Well you could read the article

I did o-0

I've tried to read the whole thread, and as far as I can see nobody's asked for it to be closed down. Wee bit of hyperbole there, is it? Surely not.

I don't think they should be shut down, free speech certainly needs to work both ways. They are completely free of any intellectual thought and are trying to stir up division in the country, but even that has to be allowed to stand.

As for the tweets requesting companies to withdraw their advertising (which I haven't personally seen, but I'm sure they exist). People can tweet that too if they like. And the companies are free to ignore them.

Chestnut Can I also ask what examples of hate you have seen?

I have dipped in and out but can't claim to have watched any of the adverts.

Talullah

Alegrias1

Talullah

Apparently IKEA and Moneysupermarket are back advertising. If the channel succeeds I'm sure there will be more.

inews.co.uk/news/media/moneysupermarket-and-ikea-resume-advertising-on-gb-news-following-boycott-by-major-brands-1058288

They're not back advertising. They are just saying that not advertising on it doesn't mean they are boycotting it.

Well it does say they resume advertising in the headline. But who am I to doubt you!

Well you could read the article

growstuff

Chestnut

FannyCornforth

nanna8 it's on TV (at least for now!)

25Avalon I am pretty certain that most of us have seen it

Have you or Chestnut seen it?
If so can you say what you enjoyed about it please?

You can't 'enjoy' a news channel Fanny! I tend to dip in and out between programmes as I prefer drama, but I have not seen anything myself on GB News to justify closing them down. And I would never try and close a station down just because I didn't like it.
The level of hate I've seen on these threads is jaw-dropping. So maybe you can say what you hate about it, and what exactly you have seen that is so dangerous that the public shouldn't see or hear it?

What examples of hate have you seen?

The OP is an example! WWM obviously hates GBN so much she posts a thread in support of closing it down, followed by several people showing their agreement and support. Maybe you should read the thread if you want examples.

Growstuff there have been negative twitters made to companies advertising on GB News telling them to pull their adverts or they will never shop with them again. You can find the tweets for yourself. The purpose is to shut the channel down. Cancel culture. Goodbye free speech. I’m not the snowflake here. Those who want to stop me having the choice to watch are.

Remember the 60’s and the book “Last Exit to Brooklyn” which we weren’t allowed to read along with other books? People protested for the right to make up their own minds.

Chestnut

FannyCornforth

nanna8 it's on TV (at least for now!)

25Avalon I am pretty certain that most of us have seen it

Have you or Chestnut seen it?
If so can you say what you enjoyed about it please?

You can't 'enjoy' a news channel Fanny! I tend to dip in and out between programmes as I prefer drama, but I have not seen anything myself on GB News to justify closing them down. And I would never try and close a station down just because I didn't like it.
The level of hate I've seen on these threads is jaw-dropping. So maybe you can say what you hate about it, and what exactly you have seen that is so dangerous that the public shouldn't see or hear it?

What examples of hate have you seen?

I don't have a television now and so haven't seen this new tv channel, but I seem to remember that when Channel 5 first aired, in the late 1990s, it was ridiculed because its opening programme had the Spice Girls leaping about in excitement and everyone complained that it was too lightweight and childish to be taken seriously. It's still broadcasting isn't it?

25Avalon

growstuff

25Avalon

FC yes I have watched it. It made a refreshing change tbh. People should be able to make their own minds up not be dictated to.

Why can't they make up their own minds? Who's stopping them?

Those who wish to shut them down before they even went on air.

Are the people who want to watch seriously such snowflakes? Who are these people who want to stop them? Are they going round in mobs pulling TV plugs out of the wall?

This is a classic example of victim mentality.

Chestnut ???

FannyCornforth

nanna8 it's on TV (at least for now!)

25Avalon I am pretty certain that most of us have seen it

Have you or Chestnut seen it?
If so can you say what you enjoyed about it please?

You can't 'enjoy' a news channel Fanny! I tend to dip in and out between programmes as I prefer drama, but I have not seen anything myself on GB News to justify closing them down. And I would never try and close a station down just because I didn't like it.
The level of hate I've seen on these threads is jaw-dropping. So maybe you can say what you hate about it, and what exactly you have seen that is so dangerous that the public shouldn't see or hear it?

growstuff

25Avalon

FC yes I have watched it. It made a refreshing change tbh. People should be able to make their own minds up not be dictated to.

Why can't they make up their own minds? Who's stopping them?

Those who wish to shut them down before they even went on air.

muffinthemoo

The right to free speech does not include the right to be taken seriously

Very true

25Avalon

FC yes I have watched it. It made a refreshing change tbh. People should be able to make their own minds up not be dictated to.

Why can't they make up their own minds? Who's stopping them?

25Avalon You have a right not to buy from the companies who have said that they won't advertise on GBNews. I expect the companies have factored decisions such as yours into their decision.

I haven't watched GBNews and I'm unlikely to watch it in the future, not because I've accused it of promoting hate. I've seen clips of Andrew Neil talking about what it stands for and it's not something which appeals to me in the slightest. From what I've seen of the subject matter so far, I'm not interested in that either. It appears there won't be any actual news reporting or investigative journalism, so I can't see any reason to watch.

Quite frankly, it sounds like a cross between a televised form of pub discussions and the Daily Express, which doesn't interest me at all. There are so many other sources of news and current affairs.

FC yes I have watched it. It made a refreshing change tbh. People should be able to make their own minds up not be dictated to.

www.gbnews.uk/

Not sure how prominent Farage is on it. But you have made a good point. Due to this advertising boycott, ( other words are available) more people are tuning in. As they say, no such thing as bad publicity. I watched about 5 minutes of this programme the other day and it's dire. In my opinion. But I certainly don't agree with companies getting stressed due to social media outbursts. But all it's doing is garnering publicity for the programme and more viewers. If this show is a success you can bet your bottom dollar they will get their adverts. Market forces as someone has said. What needs to be remembered is not everyone is outraged/offended. But some aren't happy to see companies bow to negative social media comments. Even though we understand why they do. However it appears they are getting more negative comments about the boycott so goodness knows what they're going to do.

The right to free speech does not include the right to be taken seriously

nanna8 it's on TV (at least for now!)

25Avalon I am pretty certain that most of us have seen it

Have you or Chestnut seen it?
If so can you say what you enjoyed about it please?

No - I googled it and it mentioned that dreadful Farage man so I don’t think I’ll bother.

I’ll have to try and watch it, sounds interesting if it attracts that much comment! Is it radio or tv ?