One law for football fans?

It is not snobbery not to like something or be annoyed that it has taken over the networks.
Nor is it snobbery to dislike the behaviour of some of it fans and some of its overpaid players.

Didn't Nicola Sturgeon very recently refuse to allow double-vaccinated passengers (including Scots) to disembark from a cruise ship, due to Covid, and yet she is quite happy for 20,000 Scots to descend on London and cause havoc? Talk about hypocrisy.

I must be a lone voice here. I didn't see any of the scenes of hooligans. The police made 26 arrests in London. George Square in Glasgow was "peaceful" noisy but not violent.
My street here in the Scottish Borders was noisy as well.

Chances are there will be another lockdown as a result of the covid super-spreader gatherings.

The heavy handed break up of a seemingly peaceful vigil on Clapham Common in March resulted in 9 arrests and a loss of confidence in the police.

I watched the match on TV but nothing before or after so it must have been then that the feelings were whipped up!

DGD plays for a girl's football team and it has helped her in many ways through adolescence and school- socially, mentally and physically.

Sparklefizz

Didn't Nicola Sturgeon very recently refuse to allow double-vaccinated passengers (including Scots) to disembark from a cruise ship, due to Covid, and yet she is quite happy for 20,000 Scots to descend on London and cause havoc? Talk about hypocrisy.

She wasn't happy. Really. Talk about missing the point entirely......

There's a whole other thread dedicated to Nicola bashing, maybe you'd like to visit it? See you there.

No but it is often part of it dragonfly, hence keeps the proles happy. Its fine not to like things, I strongly dislike the royal family, and it's never ending presence on the news, but I understand that many many people like that.

I enjoy football but I really feel that this year the Euros should not have gone ahead. I don't think the Olympics should be happening either. We are not out of the woods yet so why would a major football tournament be given the green light to go ahead? Of course it is going to attract crowds of supporters, with the vast majority of them ignoring any distancing or face mask rules. They will drink, get drunk, leave rubbish, cause disruption and damage. Very surprised it has been allowed when the rest of us have to conform.

Alegrias1

I don't like football much.

Lots of people do. And I mean lots. So if there is a big international festival of football, I guess we will all just have to find something else to watch on TV for a while.

Such snobbery.

Totally unfair Alegrias.

Some of us have not seen our close family for such a long time- and thought we were going to be able to soon. Then comes this Delta/Indian variant, and it looks like we might have to continue to be VERY careful for a long time still. We were supposed to go back to some form to more or less 'normal' on 21st- but this has not happened, and for very good reasons.

And yesterday we saw hordes of people screaming, packed together in their thousands, in a town where so many are not vaccinated- are we being snoobish for thinking that is very worrying?

And I don't care if it was football or rugby, or tiddly winks!!!

Blimey this is a first, I totally agree with you Kali2

I cannot see the reasoning in the Scotland fans coming to London, they did not have tickets and there were no Fan Zones set up available for them to view the match.

Definitely one rule for football fans and another for everyone else. Ashcombe, I agree with you about schools turning the day into a 'football fest' !!! Madness.
I fully understand the passion people have for the game , I don't understand why they feel they have the right to run amok in our streets causing chaos and fear to other people. The football mentality is beyond my comprehension and does a great disservice to those fans who behave in a civilized manner. These fans are like wild animals!!!!! Their whole lives must be taken over with their football madness. Sickening.

Galaxy

No but it is often part of it dragonfly, hence keeps the proles happy. Its fine not to like things, I strongly dislike the royal family, and it's never ending presence on the news, but I understand that many many people like that.

Well, there we are Galaxy, we do see eye to eye on something. I am two days older than the Heir to the Throne, but apart from the air we breathe and the fact that we both have a healthy fondness for the opposite gender, I feel he and I have nothing in common. As for the media obsession with the Royals, I was amused some years back when a spoof headline appeared in a satirical magazine "Fergie stubs toe!" which kinds summed it all up.

This is getting very mixed up isn't it:

Too much footie on TV
Women being disadvantaged
Scots fans running amok
Nicola Sturgeon

Shall we pick one thing to be outraged about at one time, then maybe we have a better chance of understanding each others posts.

Where was the. Social distancing? A rule for one and one for another makes a complete mockery of it all.

GG13 - lol.

Some very snobbish views on here about football. It's a team game that gives alot of pleasure to people.My ex husband, son and Grandson all meet up to watch their team and they have a lovely time and they are not hooligans.
I really resent some of the disparaging comments on here. Football is considered more of
a working class sport, so attracts ignorant comments, why are Rugby players not referred to as overpaid Prima Donna's , thugs and other disparaging names.
The Scottish supporters were loud, and very excited but I saw no signs of fighting and hooligan behaviour on the news. I did not hear they intimidated people on public transport either.

I think it’s important for sport to go ahead at the moment given that people are restricted in so many ways. I love watching most kinds of sport and football is so important to so many people. Having said that I’m appalled that people were allowed to travel down from Scotland without having tickets to see the match when we’re in the middle still of a pandemic. As for the game itself well, as DH and I said to ourselves afterwards, that’s two hours of our lives that we won’t get back. And again ( I know I’m always harking back to this ) I keep thinking back to the people’s vote marches I was on when there was no trouble and no litter.

Having said that I’m appalled that people were allowed to travel down from Scotland without having tickets to see the match when we’re in the middle still of a pandemic.

How would you have stopped them?

I’m totally with you Alegrias1. And you don’t even like football! I love international football and although I find some of the fans’ behaviour (particularly the English) embarrassing, on the whole I’m so happy to have this wonderful European competition bringing joy and excitement to so many people at what can only be described as the shittiest time since WW2.

Alegrias1

^Having said that I’m appalled that people were allowed to travel down from Scotland without having tickets to see the match when we’re in the middle still of a pandemic.^

How would you have stopped them?

Nicola Sturgeon allowed flights to take off full of un-masked supporters, singing and drinking (videos available on line) the trains were not much better.

She should have enforced a no ticket no travel policy

Welcome In third corona wave.

Well they did intimidate people on public transport. A woman on a plane from Edinburgh full of drunken fans asked them not to swear or sing as she was with a child. This didn’t happen and the cabin crew gave up trying to get them to put their masks on or stop drinking. Also the tube where men in kilts were giving the rest of the passengers an impromptu dance showing all their bits are just a couple of examples . The transport police couldn’t cope. I’m not against people having a good time, but trashing the town , urinating in the fountains. No thanks

I might add that I do like football (once married to a footballer) but as we are in pandemic restrictions what in earth is wrong with watching the game’s locally.

No need to travel, and that goes for any Country.

Looking forward to the comments when/if in order for the final to be played at Wembley the PM gives 2,500 VIP’s /football executives a free pass on quarantine?

Whats a prole? my husband likes the football, he was a bank manager.

Nicola Sturgeon allowed flights to take off full of un-masked supporters, singing and drinking (videos available on line) the trains were not much better.

She should have enforced a no ticket no travel policy

This is just getting silly now. Should she have stood on the runway and prevented the planes taking off? Laid down on the tracks maybe?

No ticket no travel. So nobody without a ticket to the match was allowed to leave Scotland on public transport? Nobody at all? Do you not think they have cars?

"I did not hear they intimidated people on public transport either"

Believe me they do! when I worked up in London and football fans descended on the capital, it was horrible for commuters, tubes tended to be packed anyway and it doesn't take too much imagination to see how drunken fans piling on to already crowded stations and trains impact on those trying to go about their daily lives. Alarming, frightening is how I remember it and that was before any of us had experienced a pandemic.

Alegrias1

^Nicola Sturgeon allowed flights to take off full of un-masked supporters, singing and drinking (videos available on line) the trains were not much better.^

She should have enforced a no ticket no travel policy

This is just getting silly now. Should she have stood on the runway and prevented the planes taking off? Laid down on the tracks maybe?

No ticket no travel. So nobody without a ticket to the match was allowed to leave Scotland on public transport? Nobody at all? Do you not think they have cars?

To be fair The First Minister is fairly hot on people travelling into Scotland, so it’s not impossible.