Is this a joke, or something?

Kalu

Great Britain/Britain is the official collective name of England, Scotland and Wales. This does not include Northern Ireland, which is part of the UK.

FNOUK? Only sung by those school children who have not yet broken up for end of term??

Feeling pedantic today. ?

I was, too.

The British Isles:
British Isles, group of islands off the northwestern coast of Europe. The group consists of two main islands, Great Britain and Ireland, and numerous smaller islands and island groups, including the Hebrides, the Shetland Islands, the Orkney Islands, the Isles of Scilly, and the Isle of Man. Some also include the Channel Islands in this grouping.

Great Britain:
Great Britain is an island separated from the European mainland by the English Channel and North Sea. It comprises the nations of England, Scotland and Wales.

United Kingdom:
United Kingdom, island country located off the northwestern coast of mainland Europe. The United Kingdom comprises the whole of the island of Great Britain—which contains England, Wales, and Scotland—as well as the northern portion of the island of Ireland. The name Britain is sometimes used to refer to the United Kingdom as a whole.

Britannica

Britain might seem an appropriate term though, as occasionally we don't seem very united.
Which brings us back to the song.

Kalu

Nothing has changed, yet! Great Britain and Northern Ireland

GB is the collective definition of 3 nations.
UK which is more widely used, includes all 4 nations. We’re you not taught this at school?

So annoying isn’t it, when people only post initialisms/abréviations/acronyms.

Four Nations One United Kingdom. ?

I think you misunderstand. Great Britain is a geographical definition and only geographical not a "collective".

The United Kingdom is a political term defining a group of counties who have, so far, agreed to work as one with a shared head of state and parliament. This is what I was taught in school and as far as I can see is still true today.

Thank you for the translation of FNOUK. Every day is a school day thankfully.

I am not arguing with you or anyone, just posting my opinion.

Apologies, GG13. I thought this was a discussion forum.

There is a line "We have opened our doors, and we've widened our shores"
I think we have tightened our doors and closed all our shores
in fact that is exactly what we have done.
Perhaps that is all we can do but for me distressed children arriving on our shores some of them without parents and then turned away from our country is downright inhumane to me.
Still that's us Great Bloody Britain.

Nothing has changed, yet! Great Britain and Northern Ireland

GB is the collective definition of 3 nations.
UK which is more widely used, includes all 4 nations. We’re you not taught this at school?

So annoying isn’t it, when people only post initialisms/abréviations/acronyms.

Four Nations One United Kingdom. ?

Oooh wonderful, next the kids will have to sign up to the Boris Youth.

This song won't bring people together, thats not what its truly intended for...this is a snarky way to bring yet more division, its all the Tories know how to do, supported by one of the nastier ones too, Andrea Jenkyns.
I love how they can't feed the starving kids of our Country without a footballer telling them how, but yet we're all 'in this together'.
Rubbish, fascist nonsense.

you got another link . i dont have twitter..... maybe thats it a TWIT-ER

Is this a campaign song for Boris? we are not one nation we are
four nations. We are a divided U.K. Will this song be sung in Scotland ? I heard a woman talking about it at the shops her view was Nay Way, Nay Chance. said in her Scottish accent.

Make every child in U.K equal give a good education to all
there are children going without food at home so sort that out.
Make inclusive opportunities to every child and then perhaps we are starting to do something about the future of the nations children.

Kalu

Great Britain/Britain is the official collective name of England, Scotland and Wales. This does not include Northern Ireland, which is part of the UK.

FNOUK? Only sung by those school children who have not yet broken up for end of term??

Feeling pedantic today. ?

There is no accepted definition of what Britain is and as any vague idea is about a land mass and does not include Northern Ireland. Are we intending to tell it's citizens it doesn't belong to the UK?

Don't know what FNOUK means.

NotSpaghetti

I'm with Kalu on this!

*Why not also include Northern Ireland if you want to be inclusive?*

The whole thing is a complete omnishambles

Well intentioned, no doubt, by the OBON chap, but not thought through at all by the government.

I'm with Kalu on this!

Why not also include Northern Ireland if you want to be inclusive?

Whitewavemark2

And true to form it isn’t even true.

One Britain, One Nation?!

I think not, I thought we were a union of 4 Nations.

Exactly Whitewave but now the largest of those nations is throwing it's weight about and telling our children how they must think about the UK. How can anyone not see what is wrong with that!

Great Britain/Britain is the official collective name of England, Scotland and Wales. This does not include Northern Ireland, which is part of the UK.

FNOUK? Only sung by those school children who have not yet broken up for end of term??

Feeling pedantic today. ?

Under Covid-19 restrictions, I thought singing was forbidden currently. Certainly we aren’t permitted to sing in church, as far as I know.

Whitewavemark2

And true to form it isn’t even true.

One Britain, One Nation?!

I think not, I thought we were a union of 4 Nations.

But Johnson is trying hard to convince people that the UK is 'one nation'. Innocently or not, this campaign is playing into his hands.

Stormystar

What values sentiments should we be endorsing for our children if responsibility being fair, decent, respectful, tolerant and compassionate, carry such sinister undertones ?
Sounds like Orwellian double talk to me - good is bad war is peace etc.

The sentiments don't carry any sinister undertones.

The one Nation, great Nation sentiments do. Particularly when apparently endorsed by a government desperate to ignore the divisions caused by Brexit and led by a man who is the complete antithesis of the 'British values' extolled by the OBON group.

cross post WWM2!

And true to form it isn’t even true.

One Britain, One Nation?!

I think not, I thought we were a union of 4 Nations.

fair, decent, respectful, tolerant and compassionate

These things are fine.

Associating them with a symbol of one political union is worrying. Also the use of the term One Nation One Britain; There are at least 3 nations in Britain, apologies to any GNers from NI who I think are not part of Britain? Its a minefield and trying to reduce it to patriotism for a political entity that is so difficult to define is the problem, IMO.

It is nationalist populist nonsense.

I have not said that this is neither wrong or right, but that a community day (which is basically what I see this as) could have a worthwhile place one day a year in the school curriculum.

It would probably have worked better if they'd chosen a date that was actually in every country's school year then.

I just watched that Cabaret clip again, thanks MawBe for posting it. I'd forgotten how scary it is. I guess many of us are the old bloke in glasses who won't stand up.

What values sentiments should we be endorsing for our children if responsibility being fair, decent, respectful, tolerant and compassionate, carry such sinister undertones ?
Sounds like Orwellian double talk to me - good is bad war is peace etc.

Callistemon

Zennomore

@Lin52 - Your expressed belief that Scotland and Wales are part of the British Isles WHETHER THEY LIKE IT OR NOT , is hardly a resounding endorsement of the one Britain One Nation message ?
As Granny23 points out most schools in Scotland break up on the 24th - One Britain One Nation ? I think not.

It would be very difficult to detach ourselves from the main island of the British Isles and how far would we have to row to be considered not part of the geographical group?

This isn't about being part of a geographical group it's about subsuming separate countries into one nation - ruled by England - in a way they may or may not agree with.

MaizieD

I have read your posts.

I have not said that this is neither wrong or right, but that a community day (which is basically what I see this as) could have a worthwhile place one day a year in the school curriculum.

I am not arguing with you or anyone, just posting my opinion.

GrannyGravy13

MaizieD

I do feel sorry for the well meaning and probably excited children of St John's Primary School whose sentiments probably are that we should be inclusive of all and kind to each other.

I absolutely agree with you, Callistemon.

It's not the sentiments that are at fault, but their eerie similarity to the 1930s fascist agenda is disturbing when pushed by a government source.

These alleged far right sentiments could equally be applied to the far left North Korea, China or even Thailand have children singing The Countries anthem/song everyday!

Is it so wrong for children to thank all those who have worked tirelessly during the Covid-19 pandemic by clapping?

Is it wrong to educate children about community’s and helping each other?

If the participating schools can work the theme into the school day once a year could it improve community/social cohesion, or even emphasise schools ethos of helping each other?

After all we have days dedicated to Harvest Festival, Football Tournaments (when they are occurring) various Religious Festivals.

You're not listening to me, are you, GG13?

I'm not saying that it's wrong. I'm saying that it has disturbing undertones, particularly when endorsed by a government with a questionable agenda, led by someone who is the antithesis of the values being celebrated.

Saying that it is the sort of thing also endorsed by autocratic far left regimes doesn't help your argument...