Little Britain - the state of England today

Lucca

“ but BLM , itself an anti Semitic, racist, Marxist organisation funded by George Soros”. Really ? Is this true ?

??? I have to do this or I'll cry.

Poor George Soros

Have a read of this:

www.buzzfeednews.com/article/hnsgrassegger/george-soros-conspiracy-finkelstein-birnbaum-orban-netanyahu

KateF. “ We saw this weekend what a dictator Macron is again,”

Is that with him insisting on vaccine passports ? Sorry but I’m with him on that one.

The point of the France comment was obvious Lucca

Have no idea about art in schools or the French water companies and any misdeeds but every other issue the OP raises are ones causing problems in France and many other countries with a large population.
The UK ( or England as is being singled out) is not perfect, and could never be, but is still the best country in Europe to live in my view.
The aid budget is being cut to about the same amount as France has been paying btw.

But the OP was talking about UK. .??

Why do we have to come back with the “France is as bad” ??
It could have been interesting to hear people’s views in those issues, but no.

I think that the point of outrage at cutting the Aid Budget was to do with the fact that the government had broken a promise. That is what Theresa May said so strongly in her speech.
It is pointless comparing what we have failed to deliver with what other countries do or did.
We reneged on a promise .That is what is unforgiveable.

Agree Gillycats... I too am English and proud of it.

Good comment

Actually, a lot of you have said that you do care but you haven't said about what.

Today my house has 3 bedrooms and 3 bath/shower rooms. And at the same time there are tens of thousands of families living in sub standard housing. WHY?

Actions speak louder than words - could you offer a home to a family with a child or children who are at present living in a shanty town slum in Paris?

Good comment by west end girl I mean.

Dinahmo

GoldenAge I realise that I slightly misread your post.

Actually, a lot of you have said that you do care but you haven't said about what.

You totally misread Goldenage's post and turned it against her.

westendgirl

I think that the point of outrage at cutting the Aid Budget was to do with the fact that the government had broken a promise. That is what Theresa May said so strongly in her speech.
It is pointless comparing what we have failed to deliver with what other countries do or did.
We reneged on a promise .That is what is unforgiveable.

After what it has cost this country in terms of money (Covid )
I think a cut to the level of what France is paying ( and has been paying) is reasonable.
The promise was made in ‘good times’.

I was under the impression that the reduction in Foreign Aid was a temporary measure?

JaneJudge

MayBee70, if people start listing things they'll get accused of virtue signaling

Quite right.
When I suggested that posters might like to support a small charity I've supported for years, I was shredded on here and told in no uncertain terms I was a virtue signaller.
I've never mentioned it or anything we do since.

I suppose the point is we should be striving to live in a good and fair country, we shouldn't accept that because another country is bad, everything is ok. It is a bit like the argument about free schools meals being compared to starving children in third world countries. The point is we are NOT a third world country, we should be doing better for the people who live here and we shouldn't be blaming people for being poor. People generally cannot help being poor.

It is too easy to blame 'people' and not look at probable causes and short and long term solutions

It is a bit like some of the comments about racism on this thread. We are not that racist not compared to <insert country of choice> That isn't the point, the point is we could and can try better. It wasn't a huge leap that the rhetoric around brexit and closing our borders would manifest itself into something bigger or something else , especially when you have dedicated organisations and their hooligan following.

Devongirl4

Did you eventually buy your council house?

If this question is aimed at me, I lived in the council house in the fifties. And nor did my parents.

Exactly Callistemon

Has the OP posted what she would do if they were residing in England?

Believe me, many people do think about it and care but with all the things you mentioned, there's not a lot we can do as so few are not listening. It seems that the minority who are causing such chaos in our dear country, individual people as well as companies, are too selfish to think of the future. I dread it for my great grandchildren when they arrive.

lemongrove

Good post Maggs ??

Yes Ellianne you are correct, this thread is political.The OP won’t turn out to be a fan of the Conservative Party ( that’s putting it mildly am sure.) Starting a contentious thread about the ‘state’ of England and not the UK was the first clue.
Hardly worth bothering to debate this subject really, but heartening to see so many posts rebutting it.
As stated, the OP doesn’t know who does what to question or help in their own small way, from giving to charities, food banks to writing to MP’s. Am hoping Dinahmo does the same things in France.... when not cleaning the three bathrooms and weeding the massive garden.

My garden is not massive. The plot is quite large, but not by the standards of many people, of whatever nationality who live in France. Most of it is given over to wildlife and what is meadow is mown once a year. And, for your information, it cost 39,000 euros back in 2006/2007 when the exchange rate was very good. Compared with a plot of land I looked at in Suffolk (less than 1/3 acre which was eventually sold for £106,000) with overhead power lines coming from Sizewell in the next door field.

Chewbacca

I think OPs reading matter and choice of t.v. programmes feeds in to her confirmation bias.

What do you think my reading matter is? You don't know my choice of tv either apart from Channel 4 news.

JaneJudge

MayBee70, if people start listing things they'll get accused of virtue signaling

That's sad. I for one have picked up several excellent suggestions on GN how to improve things for others. Just because these caring actions take place within my own community doesn't mean they are any less valuable.
Being accused of being a Pollyanna or comments about wanting a medal are silly.

Callistemon

Dinahmo

GoldenAge I realise that I slightly misread your post.

Actually, a lot of you have said that you do care but you haven't said about what.

You totally misread Goldenage's post and turned it against her.

Well that makes a change doesn't it. Compared with the numbers of you have have misread my posts and turned them against me. All because I have criticised my home country from a few miles away.

The OP posted her opinion on what the English news was given out , and mentioned the word France.
Most of the replies read like a pack of wolves attacking the OP and France, very few concentrate on the actual subject.

It does annoy me when someone can sit in another country and criticise their homeland. You ask why we are not doing anything, well who is to say we are not. We are not a revelutionary nation. However you are unaware of grassroots. Things will change.

Lemongrove it was still a promise on which organisations built their budgets, a promise we made and which others relied upon.
Look at the wastage if you want to talk of money spent through the pandemic . I'm not going into it as it has been covered. Jane Judge you are right. We could and should do better . We should surely be aiming high and not put up with low standards in government as in elsewhere. this is where lowering standards leads

Ellianne, of course doing things within your own community isn't less valuable. I don't feel that way.

I have become apathetic though. I have stopped signing petitions and I never write to my MP any more as nothing ever comes of it. I feel resentful that volunteers are relied upon to do complex jobs that should be paid too