Little Britain - the state of England today

justme2

Liquidate the British Royal Family AND it's holdings and England could feed, house and clothe most of the world.

I read this as liquidise the royal family

I'm sure our French friends could give some advice on how to achieve that one!

?????
That’s a line of happy heads rolling.

I suspect most posters with the ‘our lovely country not what it used to be’ blah blah attitude are forgetting how things really used to be.
It’s a failing sometimes in the old.

Ah yes, The Good Old Days

Slums, dreadful housing, Rachmanism, disabled children hidden away, women locked up in asylums for life because they'd had a child out of wedlock, a charity having to look out for neglected and abused children, women kept in their place.

We'd never had it so good.

Callistemon: For the fit and healthy; at least Sweden has abandoned the practice of eugenics fairly recently.

I was wondering when the first whataboutery would come. You may find this of interest:
Although such legislation was never actually passed in Britain, this did not prevent many sterilisations being carried out under various forms of coercion.

Much more to read here:
www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/shocking-photos-sterlize-undesirables-uk-10673991

This thread is about the state of England today. Perhaps you would care to comment on state pensions and maternity care TODAY in the UK. After all we don't live in the past.

JaneJudge

justme2

Liquidate the British Royal Family AND it's holdings and England could feed, house and clothe most of the world.

I read this as liquidise the royal family

Me too!

I know the French followed our example and liquidated theirs but we saw sense and invited ours back.

Liquidised, sorry!

DH is talking to me - I'm not good at multi-tasking

After all we don't live in the past.

But some still suffer the consequences.
Sterilisation on certain grounds was legal in Sweden until 2014.

Whataboutery?
When somewhere is constantly compared unfavourably with another country it is relevant to point out that other countries are not so perfect as claimed.

Sterilisation on certain grounds was legal in Sweden until 2014.
I mean sterilisation on certain grounds was compulsory in Sweden until 2014.

Lucca

KateF. “ We saw this weekend what a dictator Macron is again,”

Is that with him insisting on vaccine passports ? Sorry but I’m with him on that one.

Yet when this Government suggested it people where furious, two tier society etc etc, nightclubs won’t touch them etc etc.

I wasn't furious.
I don't know anyone who was, actually.
Some had misgivings, but fury?

www.childrenscommissioner.gov.uk/2020/06/22/fact-checking-claims-about-child-poverty/

www.insidehousing.co.uk/insight/insight/four-graphs-showing-the-state-of-homelessness-in-england-69442

Too many ostriches.

Thanks for correction. Liquidize is better.

I can’t speak for others Lin but I wasn’t furious
I’m also in favour of masks continuing to be compulsory on public transport

justme2

Liquidate the British Royal Family AND it's holdings and England could feed, house and clothe most of the world.

Do that and the resulting proceeds would be enough to run this country for about 5-6 weeks.

???

Lucca

KateF. “ We saw this weekend what a dictator Macron is again,”

Is that with him insisting on vaccine passports ? Sorry but I’m with him on that one.

So am I. It is for the good for everyone. I think he has handled the pandemic well considering the deaths per million in rich countries ( if we can say that) and he kept the schools open, even though I lost my job there. If people don’t want the vaccination they can keep safely apart from the crowds and shop in the smaller outlets. I am just waiting for the UK to open its door as France has towards the UK.

When somewhere is constantly compared unfavourably with another country it is relevant to point out that other countries are not so perfect as claimed.

I don't feel that we are being constantly compared unfavourably with another country. And I haven't noticed that another country has been described as 'perfect'. When was this?

We will never improve matters here or anywhere else unless we accept that things need to be improved. But then it seems we must not criticise because it's unpatriotic.

Of course we care - the majority of us do and many people do try and do something about the things that are wrong. You are seeing the worst of things on news channels and in the papers. Things aren’t great in a lot of countries it’s not just GB. There are still lots of good things about our country - as for being one only the richest nations ….. it’s borrowed money at the moment - does it make sense to keep borrowing more because we can!

Please don't live abroad and then criticise your country of birth!!! England is a great place to live when taking in to consideration all the s* that is going on everywhere else in the World. There ae many faults but so many more advantages to living in the the UK

NanaPlenty

Of course we care - the majority of us do and many people do try and do something about the things that are wrong. You are seeing the worst of things on news channels and in the papers. Things aren’t great in a lot of countries it’s not just GB. There are still lots of good things about our country - as for being one only the richest nations ….. it’s borrowed money at the moment - does it make sense to keep borrowing more because we can!

Can you tell me who the money has been borrowed from?

Callistemon

I think, Greta that Things have obviously changed in Sweden since I lived there; some things for the better, other things not is true of most countries.

I have seen and been horrified by the substandard housing
endured by at least one woman and her young son featured on ITV news where the ceiling collapsed. These were not ancient tenements so what has gone wrong?
What did I do? I contacted the journalist but got no response at all - did he find a story to upset and enrage and then move on? Should I harangue the council concerned until they do something? I don't live in that area, nor that country.

Did I sign a petition about racism in the social media after the football? Yes.

Are music and arts on the school curriculum? Yes, they are here. Should I protest that they are not elsewhere?

Water companies - not-for-profit Welsh Water has a shocking record of sewage spillage. Did I want water companies privatised? No and thought the Blair government would stop it going through, but they did not.

Cuts to overseas aid - probably not a good idea and short sighted but it does need an overhaul. It will be at similar % of GDP as eg France
Everywhere has to recover post-Covid including the UK.

I have no idea why the subject of loos and bathrooms were introduced but it was in the OP.

I think it was these unpleasant accusations, rather than pointing out where things need improvement, that annoyed posters:

Why aren't you all caring about the wrongs? And, if you do, why aren't you doing something about it?

Perhaps you could try watching a different news programme which shows all that is good about the UK and how people have been caring for others, especially during this pandemic.

An excellent post, I love the UK, England is where I live, and really don’t want to live anywhere else, although did love travelling and meeting people. I too watch and see the good that people do to help, I was a volunteer before covid, mainly with elderly people, and also read for the partially sighted and at least it was helping others. Many good things are done by our local population re helping homeless, food banks, and other positive things for the community. We also have a refugee programme with the local hospital for Drs and Radiographers for clinical training, so even in my small area of the country much good is being done.

Wong

Please don't live abroad and then criticise your country of birth!!! England is a great place to live when taking in to consideration all the s* that is going on everywhere else in the World. There ae many faults but so many more advantages to living in the the UK

I don’t wish to criticize the UK however I feel my human rights have been ignored regards to being able to vote as a British Citizen born in England, whereas in other countries eg France people have the right to vote for life. I do pay taxes in the UK.

The day the Brexit results came in I felt really ill, sick, sad. People here gave their condolences, I felt all I stood for rejected. Since then I have had to take another nationality, they have excepted me with kindness.
I can see from the outside what is happening to the UK I love. The rich are laughing all the way to their off-shore banks. The poorer will have their cheaper food in the first instance at the cost of global warming, NHS will be a very small public part, the rest private. There are so many other daily instances people can see looking in from the EU but the majority of the voters seem blind to the lies.
Regarding why immigrants do not wish to settle here is mainly because they speak English as a second language.

Regarding why immigrants do not wish to settle here is mainly because they speak English as a second language.

I thought that they did want to settle here precisely because they mainly speak English as a second language mokryna?

Lucca

I can’t speak for others Lin but I wasn’t furious
I’m also in favour of masks continuing to be compulsory on public transport

Must admit neither was I, in fact in favour of it, and . will continue to wear my mask too
On my way through all the daily’s , this where I’d seen it
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9404085/Fury-plans-Covid-pub-passport-app-proof-jab-negative-test-immunity.html. I know, it’s the mail .
www.thesun.co.uk/news/14466339/tory-mps-vaccine-passports-pub-boris-johnson/.

Dinahmo don't you realise how very patronising it was of you to write "Why aren't you all caring about the wrongs? And, if you do, why aren't you doing something about it?" ?

I'm actually finding myself quite offended by that.

I campaign daily to try to get the tory voters and the other racists and the "I'm all right Jack, the poor can just starve" people to see reason, but quite frankly it's almost always a lost cause.

I donate to food banks, to various charities, and I speak up when I think my voice is needed. I used to write to my MP - though have now given up, as he's incapable of formulating a single thought of his own and apparently believes the sun shines out of Johnson's ass - and I do lot of online campaigning, which is all I'm capable of as I'm suffering from Long Covid.

What more do you suggest I do?