Little Britain - the state of England today

But at least they are demonstrating for a principle, not just for the hell of it.

Like this do you mean kali2?

Marseille were once again plunged into crisis this weekend when more than 100 ultras stormed the club’s training ground. They breached the gates and set off dozens of fireworks, firecrackers and smoke bombs, causing fires and setting trees alight. The Marseille defender Álvaro González was struck in the back with a projectile and suffered a minor back injury.
Police made 25 arrests and Marseille’s game against Rennes at the Stade Vélodrome was postponed. “Thefts were committed and vehicles were damaged,” said the club in a statement. Five trees were burned with the sole aim being destruction. The damage done to the interior of the buildings amounts to several hundred thousand euros. These irresponsible and unacceptable actions must be condemned with the utmost severity.” Marseille owner Frank McCourt compared the violence to the attack on the US Capitol building last month.

Doesn't seem very principled to me. In fact, it reminds me of the same kind of mob mentality that occurs all over the world at football matches.

Kali2
You obviously weren’t in the uk in the 1970s/ 1980s when the SUS laws were being used disproportionately against young black men.
Or this. eachother.org.uk/racism-1960s-britain/

oh yes I was- but even still, compared to Switzerland or France- there was no comparison.

Or this kali2?

Due to the efforts of the combined Spanish & Polish police, a network of surveillance was prepared for Euro 20 match in Seville. Through an exchange of intelligence with the Polish Police Force, it was identified that a group of "violent, radical ultras" were making their way to Seville. It was discovered that "ultras", from both sides, had brought a number of very dangerous items.
These included: knives, bars, metal bats, batons, clubs, dagger shaped blades of glass, flares, fireworks and makeshift hand cannons. Some had also brought balaclavas.

So please, stop trying to make out that it is only English people who behave irresponsibly, and bring shame and embarrassment on their country when they go abroad. It is not- the evidence bears that out. And to keep repeating it is beginning to look like you have a personal axe to grind with the English.

You obviously don't read my posts.

You said this before and it is patently not the case.

Your posts on England have been read for years on this forum Kali and commented on accurately, nobody is misunderstanding you, not at all in fact just the opposite!

I think the OP title says it all, calling the UK ‘Little Britain’ (then targeting England only) a typical insult really from some who live abroad.

As many posters have shown on here, all comparable
countries have similar problems, so....Little France? Little Spain? Little Italy? Little Anywhere?No,of course not the ire is reserved for England only by those who choose to live elsewhere and then lob missiles.

Well said, lemongrove

Very well said lemongrove. Yes we still have problems with racism, unfortunately, but it is becoming more and more non acceptable. It was interesting to see the people arrested for the racism against our three young lions were younger men, not the elderly citizens that some on here associate with racism. Also that the Jewish bus passenger was racially abused, seemingly by a black man, who you would have thought would be empathic with his fellow passenger. In this Country I have also witnessed black on black ethnic racism, not pleasant either.

Little France is in Edinburgh

Little Italy is in NY, I believe, as was Little Spain....

When I lived in South London in the 70s and 80s I regularly saw school children of all races mixing together and I used to think that we were gradually seeing the end of racism. Sadly it appears that we aren't.

^i used to think that we were gradually seeing the end of racism
Sadly it appears we arnt^

Because your looking for it. And by that your missing all the good stuff going on between mixed races.
Seek and ye shall find certainly applies here.

MawBe

You said this before and it is patently not the case.

In which case, you are choosing to misread them.

So I shall repeat

''A massive majority of the people whose country the UK is- are hugely concerned. Because they love their country, my country too- and despair of what is happening to it recently. And despair of the image portrayed by a small minority- which is the one picked up by the world's press and TV- tragically.

Anyone who loves the UK couldn't stand by and not feel massive sadness at what is being done to it.''

No misunderstandings, no "not reading them", no lack of awareness kali2.

You have, thus far, been unable or unwilling, to provide any evidence to substantiate your post at 21.06 on 18th July. Nor have you apologised for making unsubstantiated claims about English football fans or English holiday makers in Benidorm. Nor have you acknowledged that even worse, and more violent behaviour, occurred in several other European countries and was reported all over the world.

Your apparent utter disdain for England, and English people, has become more and more apparent and I, for one, am becoming more and more offended by it.

I disagree, most English people do not despair and feel massive sadness about life in the UK. Yes, it is fraught with problems and we should seek to improve things, but we are not all living under a black cloud just because the media wants to paint a very dismal picture of some out of order behaviour and some poor political choices.
MerylStreep is right that by always looking for the bad, we often miss the good and ordinary right under our noses.

Just like the GN poster who, sad that she was missing the tournesols in France this summer, delighted in sharing a beautiful photo of a sunflower she discovered in an English garden. And the world smiles back.

Kali2

So I shall repeat

''A massive majority of the people whose country the UK is- are hugely concerned. Because they love their country, my country too- and despair of what is happening to it recently. And despair of the image portrayed by a small minority- which is the one picked up by the world's press and TV- tragically.

Anyone who loves the UK couldn't stand by and not feel massive sadness at what is being done to it.''

I have a feeling of déjà vu.

That may have been cut and pasted because I've read the same or similar words so many times over the years on GN from one particular poster.

And despair of the image portrayed by a small minority- which is the one picked up by the world's press and TV- tragically.

Smacks of bullying and racism by the press, then, as other countries have the same problems with their minorities too.

MerylStreep

^i used to think that we were gradually seeing the end of racism
Sadly it appears we arnt^

Because your looking for it. And by that your missing all the good stuff going on between mixed races.
Seek and ye shall find certainly applies here.

Please do not be so silly. Of course I'm not looking for it. It's on the news, in the papers, etc etc. And of course there's good stuff going on but it's taken a long time in coming.

Dinahmo

When I lived in South London in the 70s and 80s I regularly saw school children of all races mixing together and I used to think that we were gradually seeing the end of racism. Sadly it appears that we aren't.

That is sort of correct Dinahmo. Racism rarely exists in infant/junior schools. Young children play side by side regardless. If any racism is brought into the setting at that age it usually stems from the parents' attitude.

They still do and so do adults.
It depends where you live perhaps.

I actually think the tone of this post was pretty racist to begin with.
I'm not sure it would be tolerated to make sweeping generalisations about other groups of people.

Completely agree with you MissAdventure. If, on any of the posts that directed unsubstantiated criticism of England, or English people, and it was replaced with India/Indian, China/Chinese, Africa/African, Pakistan/Pakistani; there would be absolutely no tolerance of such blatant and unacceptable stereotyping racism.

It needs calling out for what it is: racism.

Ellianne I was actually thinking of teenagers because that's who I used to see on the tube and at the bus stops in the middle of Brixton. I'm aware that it is often the parents who have a racist attitude.