Did you read the article WWM2? This started in the US pre Trump, with a very very different historical background to the UK. Here in the UK I have to agree it’s a phoney war.
Happy Birthday - 100 years on Earth
Alice laughed: "There's no use trying," she said; "one can't believe impossible things.
I daresay you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. When I was younger, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast.
The problem is that while some will still believe Johnson's lies, his backup team are not so good at it. Johnson is a performance artist, probably one of the few earning good money at this in these times. One of the necessities of performance art is that your audience suspends disbelief. John had a ready-made (oven-ready?) cohort to assist him; all he had to do was appeal to his voters' natural prejudices.
The issue with the backup team is that they are unconvincing. These politicians either come over as believing the prejudice they pronounce on; against immigrants, against people of colour or against being alert to injustice in society. Alternatively, these MPs come over as people whose agreement with Johnson is crumbling, as we saw with the vote on foreign aid.
So, where does Johnson go next? Brexit will not turn out to be the all-round well of happiness that the levers promised. Some will blanch as they recognise the selling off of the NHS. Racism is causing more people to be shocked than agree. Voters liked the solidarity that the England football team showed - and the results it brought. Passivity to thuggish tropes is waining; it is waining just when people will begin to feel the real economic effects of Covid (not Johnson's fault, but it is obvious he made many bad calls).
How long will Johnson last? And if his party - many of whom already cannot stand him and are beginning to be willing to vote against his extremes - throw him out, what do you think the Tories will offer us next?
Did you read the article WWM2? This started in the US pre Trump, with a very very different historical background to the UK. Here in the UK I have to agree it’s a phoney war.
No sorry, I couldn’t find it. But whenever it started, there is no doubt that mad Trump picked up the baton and ran with it.
I’m pleased you agree that it is a false war though.
We all agree racism is bad, we should never use it to cause division and hate.
That link just goes to the magazine Avalon. If I then search on "Most people in Britain don’t Know What a Cultural War is" it says there are 18,349 stories about ... although at this point it neither shows or lists them.
It is an awful website and I am already forming views about the type of article this will be. However, if you can link to the actual article I will read it.
Drat I don’t know how to link it. I googled on my IPad and the article came up “ Most people dinner Britain don’t know what a cultural war is”. I clicked on it and the article came up by Dorian Lynskey on 23rd March 2021 in GQmagazine.
Do see if you can find it as it does give a different perspective to the so called cultural wars.
I’ve not heard of gq magazine before but they seem to have other interesting stories. Anybody know anything about them?
“ most people in” not dinner
GrannyGravy13
Blimey I must let my AC know they are old and uneducated, perhaps they dreamt their A levels and degrees!
Similar story in my family GrannyGravy, but not exactly replicated. Of three children and their spouses, four of them voted leave, two voted remain. All six of them have degrees.
What is this strange conversation about degrees, voting brexit etc on a culture war thread about?
Whitewavemark2
What is this strange conversation about degrees, voting brexit etc on a culture war thread about?
Someone was daft enough to mention the analysis of the Referendum results which found that the less educated and the older voters mostly voted Leave.
This has provoked the usual indignation from posters who interpret that as '100% of Leave voters were old and uneducated'.
It's not like we haven't been over and over this topic time and time again in the last 5 years; or pointed out that 'more' doesn't equal 'all' 
The important thing now Maizie, for me anyway, is that these differences haven’t caused any friction in my family.
A classic ( well funny really) case of woke gone wrong.
I was listening to a piece about this play this morning.
It appears that everyone wanted their own piece of wokism in the play so they’ll ended up disappearing up their own back sides. ? www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9798643/McKellens-age-blind-Hamlet-overshadowed-stars-trade-verbal-slings-arrows.html
Indulge me, I’m having problems taking all this in. I’’m struggling to understand this post, especially the title. To be woke means to be aware of social inequality such as racial discrimination. Why would anyone want to be against that? To have a culture war there must be two opposing cultures. So is everyone saying that the UK has a racist, ableist, misogynistic culture and a woke culture, and these two opposing cultures are currently fighting for control of the nation?
Blossoming woke has been hijacked. Originally set up by black peopling us it meant to be aware of social inequality. It has now become absurd in some cases such as banning someone because a relative in the dim and distant past was remotely connected to someone in the slave trade.
Black people in the US
25Avalon
Did you read the article WWM2? This started in the US pre Trump, with a very very different historical background to the UK. Here in the UK I have to agree it’s a phoney war.
It's a shame not to be able to read it Avalon but I think it is fairly well known that this was around before Trump. Like Johnson he tends to put feelers out - or his aids do - and see what is the latest "anger" for his potential voters and then work on it.
Johnson does the same.
25Avalon
Blossoming woke has been hijacked. Originally set up by black peopling us it meant to be aware of social inequality. It has now become absurd in some cases such as banning someone because a relative in the dim and distant past was remotely connected to someone in the slave trade.
Do you think that post might be a might exaggerated and possibly incorrect? I'm sure you know all about Johnson trying to use the ongoing culture war as leverage but this makes me question that.
It is a phoney war. Just wish people could read the article in gq magazine.
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