To want to weep fir the girls in afghanistaan

Aspen

So the well equipped and trained Afgan army decided not to put up a fight! How many of these men would be quite happy to see the women in their families returned to their traditional place in the family under their command. We see it in this county in the Pakistani communities where young girls are tricked to returning to Pakistan only to be married of to a close relative then expected to obey the mother-in- law. I believe marital rights were claimed by husbands in this country up till 1990's when the offence of rape within marriage became law. I have no doubt many men would like a subservient wife.

I agree with your thoughts as I’ve said in my own post.

I only hope that minds wiser than mine can find a solution. This is so huge and overwhelming. In case prayers help I will pray. The evil is beyond imagining, how can this terrible enforcement of such vile treatment of other human beings be happening?

My heart breaks for those children, watching the news and seeing those poor wee mites, those little babies who have the most horrendous future ahead of them. Its not right having those savages ruling over them, it's shameful.

Nagmad2016

This is the most horrifying situation for those women. It amazes me that when we see newsreels of people fleeing the country and boarding planes, the majority are able, young men. I can't help wondering why they are not staying to protect their women and make a stand for their country. This is probably a simplistic view of the situation, but it does make me wonder.

No different from all the asylum seekers arriving on our shores from elsewhere in the world. Mostly young able bodied men who’s rather abandon their families and country than stay and put things right. Or try to.

I am sure there are many army grans mourning Lulubelle. But my nephew , who served in bomb disposal there and lost good friends, said to me ‘ what did we do it for, if this is where we are now?”

It's a desperate situation. My nephew did 2 tours. He lost a couple of friends. But their time there wasn't tasted. I feel so sad when someone says this because it makes their lives seem wasted. They were sent over to keep a semblance of peace and to start to educate the girls. A lot of good was done. It's heartbreaking to see USA and UK pull out with such haste. Was it not supposed to have been a gradual process? Chief military personnel were urging Biden to think again but what's done is done.

I support the Nowzad dog sanctuary. I've sent a donation and hope that they can continue their work.

As for the girls it's so sad for them.

To be honest I don't really know what to say, only it's a tragedy

I feel very sad for all ‘ordinary’ people in Afghanistan. We don’t know how lucky we are.

Nagmad2016

This is the most horrifying situation for those women. It amazes me that when we see newsreels of people fleeing the country and boarding planes, the majority are able, young men. I can't help wondering why they are not staying to protect their women and make a stand for their country. This is probably a simplistic view of the situation, but it does make me wonder.

Same.

these actions show the UK is not to be trusted. Blood will be on our hands . Not just the female sex but the charity workers, the Afghanistan nationals that worked with the West.

Mostly young able bodied men who’s rather abandon their families and country than stay and put things right. Or try to.

I'm sorry, but I think that's a horrible thing to say.

It's the able bodied young men who have the greatest chance of surviving the rigors of the journeys they have to make of establishing themselves in a new country so as to be able to send for their families to join them. (Of course, this will not apply so much to Afghans, who would, I suspect, find it impossible to get their families out later)

But then, we know very well that it isn't exclusively young men who leave, else why do women and children, too, end up as fatalities in drowning incidents?

And please don't portray them as cowardly. You have no idea what conditions apply in their native lands or what opportunities there might be for resistance.

Just horrible what's being reported on the kind of lives women and young girls will have with the Taliban in power. Can't help but notice all the crowds running on the runway at Kabul Airport are men. I appreciated there will be many men at risk if they worked for foreign agencies but why no women and children with the men?

god!!! Still!!! Really!!!
Not doing much of a job is it.?

It's just horrific - terrible punishments already being meted out even for listening to music. This is not 'God's will' - this is, as always with these barbaric ignorant brutish people, religion twisted to suit their depraved ideology. I shudder for the future of women and girls in Afghanistan.

Like every civilized person , I am so horrified what is happening in Afghanistan particularly to women and girls. It beggers believe , so distressing to think about it and as for watching the news!!! I feel so low and so helpless . The scene at the airport is horrifying , but as one poster mentioned they are they all men, where are their wives / female relatives?

No different from all the asylum seekers arriving on our shores from elsewhere in the world. Mostly young able bodied men who’s rather abandon their families and country than stay and put things right. Or try to.

That is simply disgusting.

PippaZ

^No different from all the asylum seekers arriving on our shores from elsewhere in the world. Mostly young able bodied men who’s rather abandon their families and country than stay and put things right. Or try to.^

That is simply disgusting.

Farage song book. Then for contrast we get' why would anyone risk their child's life by putting them in a rubber dinghy.' Didn't take long for the wailing about Afghanistan to start turning.

You are right Gill57. Some do seem to welcome the hate speech and make it their own, however.

You are not being unreasonable. I don’t know how anyone can remain unconcerned about the plight of women and children. Absolutely awful.

And yet when these desperate people start to arrive on our shores there will be calls to let them drown in the channel ! We as much to blame in this country as the Taliban !! Do people really believe we “won” two worlds alone ??

HannahLoisLuke

Your comments make me ashamed to be a British woman ! Shame on you !

SueDonim

Honestly, if I was female and had young daughters in Afghanistan, I’d be considering the unthinkable and trying to ensure I had some means of doing away with us all. There are some fates worse than death. ?

I haven't added anything to this thread as I am finding it all unbearable but yes, I thought that the other day, SueDonim, as I thought of my own daughters and granddaughters.

travelsafar

Absolutely heartbreaking. The absolute terror the parents of those young girls must be living through every day must be awful. They must dread the door bursting open and seeing their little girls being taken from them.
If there is a true God why would he let this happen to innocent people.
We must go back to try to help them. Evil must not be allowed to taken over and esculate throughout the world.

God does not "let this happen" man does, this world is made up of good and evil, it is up to us which we choose, we all have free will. Choose wisely. ?

All of our lamenting and hand wringing does not absolve men of their heinous acts ! Men created the Afghan issues, men abuse women and men in that country! Men made the decisions to invade then leave!
I would like the opportunity to sponsor an Afghan woman to support her and her education but she would never be able to use it ?‍♀️
I am beyond r we ordered over this terrible unjust situation !!

Susieq62

All of our lamenting and hand wringing does not absolve men of their heinous acts ! Men created the Afghan issues, men abuse women and men in that country! Men made the decisions to invade then leave!
I would like the opportunity to sponsor an Afghan woman to support her and her education but she would never be able to use it ?‍♀️
I am beyond r we ordered over this terrible unjust situation !!

Some men not all men. A lot of men have lost their lives fighting against these heinous acts and I think you should show them some respect and not lump them in with those doing those acts.

HannahLoisLuke

Nagmad2016

This is the most horrifying situation for those women. It amazes me that when we see newsreels of people fleeing the country and boarding planes, the majority are able, young men. I can't help wondering why they are not staying to protect their women and make a stand for their country. This is probably a simplistic view of the situation, but it does make me wonder.

No different from all the asylum seekers arriving on our shores from elsewhere in the world. Mostly young able bodied men who’s rather abandon their families and country than stay and put things right. Or try to.

We have no idea of the circumstances of these people. Maybe the women don't have passports? There could well be other brothers at home to look after the women as best they can, and let the ones who are leaving go. The men may have fallen foul of Taliban laws and be at risk themselves.

I would not be holding my son back if he were able to leave a regime like that and make a new life elsewhere.