Does Briton have a moral duty to take in as many Afghan refugees as possible?

There is no chance that he wont pass the issue of Afghanistan on to another president. He might not pass military involvement on, although I wouldnt hold my breath on that either, but the after effects of this decision will be felt for years.

we should only take those that helped our troops when they were out there, seeing so many men already coming here as illegal immigrants and thousands trying to get on a plane they should be staying and resisting those who want to conquer them instead of fleeing and leaving their familys behind to their fate

But it's the ones who have tried to do most in the past who are the most likely to be executed. Can you really sit by and let that happen?

Absolutely, yes.

Aldom

Absolutely, yes.

NB. That's not a reply to Growstuff I meant Absolutely, yes we do have a moral duty to help.

So we are generously going to save 5000 Afghan people this year.

No point in following that up as they will all be punished by the Taliban by then and Patel is still determined to stop what she terms as “illegal” entry by those lucky enough to have escaped and made it to the U.K. by dingy.

It is not as easy as you seem to suggest Whitewave to get everyone out straight away. There has to be order. Just look at the chaos at the airport by allowing a free for all. The taking off of planes had to be abandoned. No decent person would stop entry to our country to anyone who worked to help the Afghan people have a civilised life. It has to be done in a controlled way. Heaven forbid we allow any terrorists to gain entry into our country through lack of control. This is not being cruel but safeguarding ourselves at the same time as looking after Afghan people.

I’m not saying it would be easy. Nothing worth doing is.

But perhaps you can tell those left behind what they should be doing to escape Taliban wrath?

I have even donated money to help nowzad who are trying to get the rescue dogs and vet staff home.

I say 'home', I mean here but it is of course some of their 'home' anyway.

I’m coming to the conclusion that PPatel has little idea of what she is doing! 5,000 a year is a drop in the ocean. What will the other 15,000 do while they wait several years to be evacuated? In previous times when people have had need to be evacuated they have been evacuated as quickly as possible and they were found temporary homes until a more permanent solution could be found. Surely that needs to be done now and once here the skills they can offer should be used to help everybody - we are told the U.K. is having problems recruiting people with all sorts of skills - these people may well be able to fill some of those gaps.

Watching the debate.

Apparently covid has disappeared from the government benches and it is all over on the opposition benches.

What an example to give to the country!

I am watching too. For a minute I was confused who our PM is/was and tbh I still am. Theresa May has put him to shame too

Johnson speech was dreadful. Starmer showing what we expect from a leader of the U.K.

Lots of criticism from the Tories.

Theresa May “where is global Britain on the streets of Afghanistan?”

Note

It took the Taliban less time to take Kabul than it took Raab to return from holiday

gosh its disgraceful

The answer to the OP is yes, we do. In my opinion.

Tom Hugendhat speech extraordinarily powerful

Tobias Elwood - speech devastating

Not sure how Johnson will survive this long term.

I was thinking the same. Tobias basically said the decisions being made were not what the majority of the house wanted.

I cannot stand all the heckling and joking

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we should only take those that helped our troops when they were out there, seeing so many men already coming here as illegal immigrants and thousands trying to get on a plane they should be staying and resisting those who want to conquer them instead of fleeing and leaving their familys behind to their fate

The Taliban will (probably, once the cameras have gone) target educated women. Girls refused education as before. Women who have divorced their husbands in previous years thinking they wouldn't have to deal with forces such as the Taliban (2017 article here)
medium.com/@faribanawa/a-growing-number-of-afghan-women-divorcing-despite-taboo-b73bb1b1bcf3

It was reinforced by a Tory M.P. that that had there been a vote many would have voted against the government.

Yes we should help by accepting refugees. Do I know how it could best be done, beating in mind the number of existing UK citizens below the poverty line? No.
Andy Burnham had a good point about making all areas in the UK take some responsibility for accepting numbers.
I’m still reeling from the shock of being told on FB that ‘they should be sent where there are already lots of immigrants, not to places where tourists like to visit!’

Whitewavemark2

Tom Hugendhat speech extraordinarily powerful

Tobias Elwood - speech devastating

Not sure how Johnson will survive this long term.

Won’t you be happy then. Our combat troops left in 20014, since then only training and surveillance. You do realise we were only a small part of this, yet you seem to think we should take the lions share of refugees.

What motivates posters to try to defend any of this? I think we should take as many Afghan refugees that we can hold. Which is quite a lot actually if you ignore the ridiculous idea that we are "full".

Listening to those Tory MPs who actually have some knowledge and are talking with authority about what its like to be a soldier and what the Afghan crisis means to them just shows Johnson for what he is. A complete incompetent who just wants the glory and none of the responsibility.