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Parliament today. Mask wearing. Or not….

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MayBee70 Wed 18-Aug-21 13:16:31

Has anyone noticed that, in parliament today, the Conservative benches seem to be full of people not wearing masks whereas the opposition benches consist of people wearing them. Do we have a Republican/Democrat situation in this country where mask wearing is now a political statement?

Galaxy Thu 19-Aug-21 16:36:14

I wouldnt bother taking it off if I was walking between shops. I had to work in one all day so walking a few yards in one isnt going to bother me.

MoorlandMooner Thu 19-Aug-21 16:31:53

GrannyGravy13

Consider the damage to the environment of all the discarded single use masks now blocking drains, watercourses, littering pavements and polluting the seas.

The fact that some people don't dispose of masks properly is a separate problem from whether they should be worn or not though isn't it?

GrannyGravy13 Thu 19-Aug-21 16:27:24

Consider the damage to the environment of all the discarded single use masks now blocking drains, watercourses, littering pavements and polluting the seas.

MoorlandMooner Thu 19-Aug-21 16:27:22

Why is it emotional blackmail M0nica? I thought it was government guidance.

JaneJudge Thu 19-Aug-21 16:23:09

I wear mine outside if I have my hands full as I can't be bothered to keep taking it off and putting it back on, if that helps. I also forget I'm wearing it sometimes

M0nica Thu 19-Aug-21 16:10:47

"From the outset we've been told by the government and their advisors that masks are to protect others."

Emotional blackmail. The incidence of COVID is now very low and concentrated in certain unvaccinated groups. For the vast majority of mask wearers they are not protecting anyone from anything, just buying into the politics of fear.

Having said that, had I been in the House of Commons yesterday, I would have worn a mask. It was a crowded and probably not well ventilated space.

Otherwise I do not bother. I went shopping early today in a supermarket with very few customers. Yesterday I went to the local market and several other shops, almost all with open doors and few if any customers, I didn't wear a mask, although I would have done if asked. Nobody asked.

What I do not understand is all those feeling a need to wear masks out of doors.

MayBee70 Wed 18-Aug-21 22:55:08

It really needs to become part of our culture and I had hoped that had happened. Especially as there’s a risk of a flu epidemic this winter as well. People do follow examples set by others even if it’s subconsciously. It seems to me that the government are trying to make people forget we still have a pandemic. We also don’t know yet how long the vaccines will be effective for.

Grannmarie Wed 18-Aug-21 21:27:27

Slightly off topic, apologies, MayBee70, but I have just come home from shopping in Lidl, and about half a dozen shoppers were not wearing masks.
I shop at this time because it's much quieter, but this is the first time I've been aware of people without masks.
Just to add that I am in Scotland, and everyone I know is still wearing masks in public places, as per Scottish government advice.
However, if people see some of those in Parliament disregarding the wellbeing of others, what kind of example does that set?

MawBe Wed 18-Aug-21 21:20:10

No more than it does when you’re eating and drinking in a coffee shop or restaurant

Just quite difficult to eat and drink through a face covering.
What do you suggest?

MoorlandMooner Wed 18-Aug-21 21:05:52

This is an article on attitudes to mask wearing after July 19th. Boris Johnson is quoted, "So, what we want to do is for people to exercise their personal responsibility but to remember the value of face coverings both in protecting themselves and others."

M0nica In this article I believe Mr Johnson, Professor Chris Whitty and Sir Patrick Vallance answer your question about why mask wearing is good and not wearing a mask is bad.

www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/06/to-mask-or-not-to-mask-what-will-johnson-and-others-do-after-19-july

JaneJudge Wed 18-Aug-21 19:32:12

House of commons is neither of those things and none of them were eating and drinking.

Lincslass Wed 18-Aug-21 19:24:00

JaneJudge

Quite a lot of shops, pubs, cafes, buses, taxis in England still ask us to wear masks too.

They do, but to walk into a restaurant wearing a mask and then sit down and take it off, well not really any use
theconversation.com/how-to-lower-your-coronavirus-risk-while-eating-out-restaurant-advice-from-an-infectious-disease-expert-138925?back=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Fsearch%3Fclient%3Dsafari%26as_qdr%3Dall%26as_occt%3Dany%26safe%3Dactive%26as_q%3DHow+far+does+a+virus+spread+when+you+open+your+mouth+and+eat%26channel%3Daplab%26source%3Da-app1%26hl%3Den

rosie1959 Wed 18-Aug-21 18:56:08

Exactly Linclass wearing a mask just to enter a restuartant is totally pointless

Lincslass Wed 18-Aug-21 18:54:02

rosie1959

Those that stood up and spoke removed their masks does an airborne virus dissappear because you are speaking

No more than it does when you’re eating and drinking in a coffee shop or restaurant.

rosie1959 Wed 18-Aug-21 18:33:19

Those that stood up and spoke removed their masks does an airborne virus dissappear because you are speaking

JaneJudge Wed 18-Aug-21 18:22:11

It has been commented on as it was so striking this is the facebook page for the HoC you can tell just by the few photos. I think galaxy described it perfectly though as polarised.

In an enclosed space with so many people, most who are wearing masks, you'd put one on, well I would at the moment still.

M0nica Wed 18-Aug-21 18:16:04

Why is mask wearing good and not wearing masks bad?

JaneJudge Wed 18-Aug-21 17:36:02

Quite a lot of shops, pubs, cafes, buses, taxis in England still ask us to wear masks too.

rosie1959 Wed 18-Aug-21 17:30:25

AGAA4 I was simply pointing out that I don’t find it confusing and am now grateful we are now ‘allowed’ to make our own choice
For me it makes little difference I rarely go into crowded areas but if I go into a restaurant now I no longer have to mask up for a short walk to the table which I always thought was a totally pointless exercise

AGAA4 Wed 18-Aug-21 17:15:36

rosie1959

AGAA4 all restriction have been dropped in the UK so I can’t see there is any confusion If you want to wear a mask you can nobody is forcing anyone
As an adult I can make my own choice

We still have to wear face masks in Wales. It is confusing as in England face masks need to be worn in certain places eg London underground.
As an adult I will continue to protect others.

MayBee70 Wed 18-Aug-21 17:03:12

As an adult my choice is to continue to protect myself and others. It would be good to see the government choose to do the same thing.

Ilovecheese Wed 18-Aug-21 17:02:11

"From the outset we've been told by the government and their advisors that masks are to protect others."

That is why some people choose to wear them.

rosie1959 Wed 18-Aug-21 16:58:07

AGAA4 all restriction have been dropped in the UK so I can’t see there is any confusion If you want to wear a mask you can nobody is forcing anyone
As an adult I can make my own choice

Jaxjacky Wed 18-Aug-21 16:03:21

loveOc would you mind referencing where the UK government has been ‘already talking of further lockdowns* please?

MoorlandMooner Wed 18-Aug-21 16:01:25

From the outset we've been told by the government and their advisors that masks are to protect others.

It's never been easier to tell who in the House of Commons cares about others and who does not than.