“Recollections may vary”. Harry and Meghan (again - I know!)

I don’t agree with these honoury titles being given to members of her family by the Queen. In my opinion they should be given to people who have actually served in the armed forces. I also think we should get rid of the titles of Duke/Duchess, and Earl of wherever etc. I don’t agree at all with these tiles and I particularly don’t agree with the Queen bestowing them on her family who haven’t earned them. It’s like something out of the Middle Ages. I think Prince, Princess, Queen, and King are all the titles we need.
Allowing Andrew to keep his honoury titles is in extreme bad taste in my opinion. I realise he hasn’t been tried, let alone found guilty, but given the amount of bad press about this affair, and the fact that Andrew has supposedly been removed from public life, then the honoury titles should be removed as well. Harry has quite rightly had his removed, although I think he should have the Duke of Sussex removed too. He was born a Prince and that can’t be removed I believe.

I really enjoyed Camilla on Gardeners world. Nell loved her

Grany

Should Prince Andrew be stripped of his military ranks?

And from all the medals Edward has it must have been a hell of a 2 weeks in the Royal marines

Although it was longer than two weeks, your comment did make me laugh Grany ....good one!?

Anniebach

There are no Vice Admirals in the Grenadier Guards Grany

I think it was me who asked the question, not Grany

So what is the point of having a Vice Admiral as a senior honorary person in the Grenadier Guards?

Charleygirl5

I do not understand why Harry and Meghan remain Duke and Duchess. The titles appear to rake in the money.

I assume it’s because he was born into the RF and the brother of the future heir to the throne.

There are no Vice Admirals in the Grenadier Guards Grany

Cost of the monarchy £345 million.

No payback from tourism
What goes up can't go down
Millions spent on private lifestyles.

Grany

In case you’re wondering about Andrew’s actual military career. He made Commander before retiring from active service. He was then given an honorary rank of captain. For his 50th birthday his mum promoted him to Rear Admiral. Five years later, he was promoted to Vice Admiral.

How does that relate to the Grenadier Guards?

Asking for a friend.

In case you’re wondering about Andrew’s actual military career. He made Commander before retiring from active service. He was then given an honorary rank of captain. For his 50th birthday his mum promoted him to Rear Admiral. Five years later, he was promoted to Vice Admiral.

Grany Andrew has not been charged with any crime.

Edward was in the Marines for 4 months not as you claim
2 weeks.

I've never understood the honorary titles and awards thing.

What does the honorary Colonel of the Grenadier Guards actually do? Turn up for regimental dinners and tell squaddies what a good job they are doing? What's the point?

Same question about becoming "Sir" this or "Dame" that or a dignitary of the defunct Empire we used to run. What good are they, really? The Queen thinks you're a good cyclist? Well, my life would be complete.

Make a stalwart of the local bowling club a life member, by all means, but don't necessarily expect him/her to be excited if the local Lord Lieutenant turns up to hand him/her some ribbon and a bit of metal.

And how does being a Duke/Duchess keep the money rolling in? The Duke of Atholl ran a commercial signage business in South Africa. He's retired now, I think.

I do not understand why Harry and Meghan remain Duke and Duchess. The titles appear to rake in the money.

Should Prince Andrew be stripped of his military ranks?

And from all the medals Edward has it must have been a hell of a 2 weeks in the Royal marines

Grany

Or they are the equivalent of Brigadier Sir Nils Olav III (who is a penguin), in which case call him something like “Regimental Royal Mascot” so there is no confusion.

i dont think the hairy goat mascot has a title other than 'billy'

he does have an army service number assigned to him though

perhaps the cogis have secret titles

grany’s link quotes ‘inside sources’

M0nica

These ranks are all honorary, so he is not suddenly going to march into the MoD and start giving orders to re-invade Afghanistan.

Lets face it all sorts of groups give all sorts of honorary awards to all sorts of people for all sorts of things, from honourary membership of the local bowls club given to a hard working committee member, now to disabled to play, to honourary degrees given to the great and good, as well as local dignitaries, at most university graduation ceremonies, to all sorts of honourary memberships, degrees, military ranks etc etc given to heads of state, whether royal or non-royal.

In the scale of things to be outraged by honourary honours are pretty small beer - and where would you draw the line?

It’s just a chance to knock the Royal family, without looking at what the role actually means. Thanks for pointing it out.

These ranks are all honorary, so he is not suddenly going to march into the MoD and start giving orders to re-invade Afghanistan.

Lets face it all sorts of groups give all sorts of honorary awards to all sorts of people for all sorts of things, from honourary membership of the local bowls club given to a hard working committee member, now to disabled to play, to honourary degrees given to the great and good, as well as local dignitaries, at most university graduation ceremonies, to all sorts of honourary memberships, degrees, military ranks etc etc given to heads of state, whether royal or non-royal.

In the scale of things to be outraged by honourary honours are pretty small beer - and where would you draw the line?

Maybe Harry might have a cameo role in ‘Suits’ ? I think he should remain exactly where he is and maybe randy Andy could join him, he would fit in well.

Or they are the equivalent of Brigadier Sir Nils Olav III (who is a penguin), in which case call him something like “Regimental Royal Mascot” so there is no confusion.

MawBe

Grany

The idea that we normalise our head of state awarding military ranks and promotions to her children is absurd and obscene. Charles has previously been promoted in all our services as birthday presents from his mum. This has to stop.

Cheaper than socks and after shave though

But in a modern, professional army, it is crackers. Akin to her making him a dentist on his 40th birthday, or a high court judge. These ranks either mean something and involve actual duties, in which case they need to go to an experienced working member of the armed forces.

NotTooOld

Maw
I don't think Harry should be allowed to go to Easter Island. It looks quite nice. I think he should be made to come back here (alone but allowed to have the kids to stay) and get on with the princing for which we taxpayers have paid to have him trained. Waste of money otherwise.

Crikey.

And PA is definitely a waste of money.

Maw
I don't think Harry should be allowed to go to Easter Island. It looks quite nice. I think he should be made to come back here (alone but allowed to have the kids to stay) and get on with the princing for which we taxpayers have paid to have him trained. Waste of money otherwise.

I thought the accusers father had introduced her to Epstein.

I saw something the other week about the accusers father saying something about Andrew - not very flattering of course. The question I have not seen posed anywhere is how did a 15 year old girl manage to be away from home so frequently and I have seen no suggestion she was held prisoner anywhere - why did she keep going back?