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“Recollections may vary”. Harry and Meghan (again - I know!)

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MawBe Thu 19-Aug-21 07:36:38

This may be a pot shot too far, now they seem to be including the Queen in their self- righteous whingeing.
(Not that I am biased)
Apparently Duke and Duchess of Sussex believe the Queen failed to take “full ownership” of the race allegations made in their interview with Oprah Winfrey, according to the authors of the unauthorised biography Finding Freedom.
A “friend of the couple” (unnamed, of course) has apparently told Omid Scobie and Carolyn Durand that the Queen’s lack of action had prevented the Duke and Duchess from moving on from the claims.
The source also suggested that the Queen’s assertion that “recollections may vary” had not gone down well.
(It did however rank IMHO as one of HM’s all-time greatest bons mots )
The Queen has until now been one of the only senior members of the Royal family to escape the Sussexes’ criticism, but this new epilogue to Finding Freedom, published in People magazine in the US, suggests that the Duke and Duchess feel frustrated that the Duke’s grandmother did not follow through with her promise to address their concerns.
It says: “The Queen’s ‘recollections may vary’ comment ‘did not go unnoticed’ by the couple, who a close source said were ‘not surprised’ that full ownership was not taken
Just one question, if this book is “unauthorised”, does it or does it not reflect their views? Or is it an example of letting somebody else put words in their mouths so that they can deny them afterwards if necessary? All these “unnamed friends,” and “close sources” - aye, right.

Calendargirl Mon 27-Sept-21 21:48:23

Meghan’s white mini dress looks like a 70’s bridal outfit.

tidyskatemum Mon 27-Sept-21 21:51:04

I seem to remember that Harry used his dread of having to go and do the usual royal duties was part of the reason for him fleeing to America. So what has changed? Not to mention the hypocrisy of lecturing about climate responsibilities then flying home in a private jet. I could go on about Herself and her outfits and jewellery going on about poverty but why bother? You couldn’t make it up.

Callistemon Mon 27-Sept-21 21:52:47

They were quite a bit shorter - that's when tights came in!

lemongrove Mon 27-Sept-21 21:57:43

I used to have a dress like the one on the right Callistemon
That was around 1968 and was green paisley design and I was
so slim thenenvy

Alegrias1 Mon 27-Sept-21 21:59:54

tidyskatemum

I seem to remember that Harry used his dread of having to go and do the usual royal duties was part of the reason for him fleeing to America. So what has changed? Not to mention the hypocrisy of lecturing about climate responsibilities then flying home in a private jet. I could go on about Herself and her outfits and jewellery going on about poverty but why bother? You couldn’t make it up.

Not like our own dear Queen, eh? She'd never wear expensive clothes and jewellery thoughtlessly when people in "her" country were suffering deprivation and poverty.

Callistemon Mon 27-Sept-21 22:01:03

lemongrove

I used to have a dress like the one on the right Callistemon
That was around 1968 and was green paisley design and I was
so slim thenenvy

That's me in the front of the picture ?

Calendargirl Mon 27-Sept-21 22:03:01

But the Queen doesn’t lecture us all about poverty and deprivation Alegrias which is the difference between her and her GDIL.

TerriBull Mon 27-Sept-21 22:03:11

Feel sorry for all those kids at the school they targeted visited, who appeared to be some sort of forced captive audience and way too old to appreciate that mushy load of pastel tosh about Harry and his bench. Having flicked through it at Waterstones recently, suffice to say Julia Donaldson's got nothing to worry about! Garbage, anyone could cobble together a load of whimsical drivel and say "hey I've written a children's book full of my truth!!!!"

Josianne Mon 27-Sept-21 22:03:32

Your shoes look really tight.

Josianne Mon 27-Sept-21 22:04:03

Josianne

Your shoes look really tight.

To Callistemon .

Alegrias1 Mon 27-Sept-21 22:06:56

Calendargirl

But the Queen doesn’t lecture us all about poverty and deprivation Alegrias which is the difference between her and her GDIL.

Ah righty-ho.

Keep your fabulous wealth secret and pretend to be just like the plebs.

I've got it.smile

Lexisgranny Mon 27-Sept-21 22:23:21

Calendargirl. You are right it does look like a 70s (or possibly late 60s)wedding dress. It would probably been worn with a sort of swimming cap/bonnet made of lots of fabric daisies and tied with ribbon under the chin and white knee high boots.

That pattern is exactly like the “buy material in the morning/make it in the afternoon/wear it in the evening” one that I used time after time in the late 60s. They didn’t take much material, the skirts were so short!

Josianne Mon 27-Sept-21 22:34:59

Fascinating, I've just been looking at vintage wedding dresses in the 60s. You're right, the daisies look like they are added on for a sort of textured look.

Callistemon Mon 27-Sept-21 22:45:42

Josianne

Josianne

Your shoes look really tight.

To Callistemon .

I trekked up Snowdon in them in the 1960s!!!

Peasblossom Mon 27-Sept-21 23:05:15

I made a skirt from half a yard of printed cotton.

16 inches long minus the two inches for hem and elastic waistband.

34 inches around minus the seams.

Sigh….

Calendargirl Tue 28-Sept-21 06:55:44

Keep your fabulous wealth secret and pretend to be just like the plebs

But the Queen doesn’t pretend to be just like ‘us’. She lives in castles and palaces, is adorned with the most fantastic jewellery, has numerous cars, servants, wardrobes of clothes.

Not much different to many famous ‘celebrities’ who through luck or opportunity are hugely wealthy also, and have no discernible talent or skills, just fell on their feet at the right time.

No use envying everyone else, it’s life.

Alegrias1 Tue 28-Sept-21 07:34:10

Oh dear...

nanna8 Tue 28-Sept-21 07:53:24

At least the Queen doesn't go round lecturing people on climate change and then flying back home on a private jet like her grandchildren!

maddyone Tue 28-Sept-21 08:05:18

Good morning from Zakinthos.
I had mini dresses just like those on the pattern in the late sixties. I made them all myself. They were easy to make. Do you think I could make one for Meghan and she could toss me a few thousand pounds for it?
Any way I'm flying home on Friday by Easyjet.

Josianne Tue 28-Sept-21 08:11:20

Hope Zakinthos is nice Maddyone. One of those dresses might look ok in the sunshine with flip flops and a big hat.
The one Meghan wore is Valentino.

Alegrias1 Tue 28-Sept-21 08:18:31

nanna8

At least the Queen doesn't go round lecturing people on climate change and then flying back home on a private jet like her grandchildren!

Wonder if she's getting to COP 26 in one of her numerous cars.

maddyone Tue 28-Sept-21 09:10:48

It's a pretty island Josianne and we've explored most it, we hire a car.
I don't think I can quite run to Valentino, but I brought a couple of nice sun dresses with me from just a tad lower price range! Do you think celebrities know they're being ripped off for these expensive clothes?
Flying on a private jet sounds nice, but it's Easyjet here I come. Maybe I could try making friends with Elton John for next year.

eazybee Tue 28-Sept-21 09:23:26

Now that Meghan is a Private Person (was she ever anything else?) she no doubt 'borrows' many of her clothes as real celebrities do but forbidden to members of the royal family.
She looks very nice in her borrowed finery but not sure what message she is sending, and actually, don't care.

Calendargirl Tue 28-Sept-21 11:09:05

Wonder if she’s getting to COP 26 in one of her numerous cars

Probably. Or one of the Royal Flight planes or helicopters, or the Royal Train…..

????. And why not?

Probably not having to use her bus pass though.

Grany Thu 30-Sept-21 07:57:41

The police are on the case, but will they treat Charles the same as they treat everyone else? (Answer: unlikely).

A SPECIAL team of top cops dubbed the ‘celebrity squad’ as they probe ‘high-profile suspects’ has been assigned Prince Charles's 'cash for honours' case.

HIGH PROFILE The Met’s ‘celebrity squad’ is probing Prince Charles’s ‘cash for honours’ case